College Admission Myths ... and Reality Checks

<p>Over this holiday weekend, I received several "Ask the Dean" queries that reminded me that students (and parents) continue to fall prey to common admission myths. As stressful and confusing as this process can be, the rumor mill can make it even more so. </p>

<p>Below are the three such myths that landed in my in-box this weekend, followed by the real story. </p>

<p>Perhaps CC members can add to the list.</p>

<p>**MYTH: Mistakes on an application are a deal-breaker. Colleges will discard applications with errors.</p>

<p>REALITY:** Application errors are common. It does irk admission officials to encounter essays that clearly haven't been proof-read or spell-checked, but that's not the same as the occasional typo or small mistake. Sometimes, however, it's important to contact the college to make a change when you spot an error. For instance, if your legal name, e-mail address, or phone numbers are not correctly entered, then the college needs to know. If you typed in the wrong code for a prospective major, then you'll want to correct that, too, unless you love surprises ... such as landing in the "Waste Management" program in lieu of "Women's Studies." ;) But if your mistake fell into more typical turf ... e.g., you wrote "form" instead of "from", "their" instead of "there," or you added an "a" to "definitely," then just let it go and lose no sleep over it.</p>

<p>**MYTH: Students who attend high schools with limited extracurricular offerings will be at a disadvantage, especially at the most selective colleges.</p>

<p>REALITY:** Admission officials evaluate applicants in the context of their environment, and thus they understand that students who attend small or rural or disadvantaged (etc.) high schools may not have the same opportunities as those at larger or more affluent schools. BUT .... successful applicants at the most selective colleges have often created their own "EC's". For instance, they have written novels, started volunteer programs, held down paid jobs, developed a unique hobby. etc. In fact, at the most competitive colleges, admission folks can get a bit tired of seeing the same extracurricular activities on hundreds of applications. So if a school doesn't participate in such endeavors, this can actually be a plus for enterprising students who need to "think outside the box" in order to spend their time in a meaningful (but less typical) way</p>

<p>**MYTH: A student who played no sport in high school will be at a disadvantage.</p>

<p>REALITY:** Being a recruited athlete can indeed boost admission odds. But if you have devoted many hours to athletics and yet you're not strong enough to catch a college coach's eye, this can actually work against you, especially if you haven't had time to develop other interests and talents. While most admission officials will agree that taking part in sports is worthwhile, those at the most selective institutions are apt to bypass athletes who won't eventually land on their college rosters in favor of other candidates with EC's that stand out in the crowd.</p>

<p>ok sorry to be so clueless but where do i go to get started an post a question?? thanks!</p>

<p>Beryl11
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<p>Good read. Actually calms me down a bit cause I had a typo on my Columbia ED Application.</p>

<p>So I don’t think that I will become a recruited athlete since my running skills are not strong enough. Does this mean I should quit and do some other EC since that can work against me?</p>

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<p>This is a little strong. There are plenty of good reasons to make sports a part of your life, no matter what level of talent you have.</p>

<p>Academics are the primary reason why a student is selected for admission, with test scores following close behind in terms of decision making by ad-coms. Extracurriculars and essays provide a glimpse into the student’s life and can tell the college admissions committee what kind of student might attend, if selected for admission. </p>

<p>Few students will statistically make it to the “game” playing NCAA Division 1 athletics (or even D2 or D3). Yet, a far greater number will be admitted to colleges based on those qualities that make them interesting students - academics, activities, sports, leadership, community service.</p>

<p>So what if you are a committed athlete? These days that means camps and clubs, playing and conditioning off-season, in addition to their high school season. That does make it tough for a student to be well-rounded, in the conventional sense. It does show discipline and a great deal of focus, which may tell the college that this student, when he/she isn’t playing a sport will devote themselves into that kind of student leader or intellectual on campus, doesn’t it? </p>

<p>If the student isn’t “good enough” to be recruited, it still shows the discipline in playing with a team, working cooperatively in long hours for an activity for a multiple number of years. This should be encouraged, I would think. </p>

<p>But, it seems of late, that adcoms have been pushing the notion of a few well-developed passions, as opposed to doing it all. </p>

<p>Perhaps if the student isn’t quite so good academically, and putting all their eggs into the athletic recruiting basket, I can see making this statement. </p>

<p>It is a problematic statement to make across the board, though, and one that will do a disservice to a great number of students that aren’t athletes who are on the caliber of Michael Phelps, or Tiger Woods, or Michael Jordan. They can’t all be that good. Yet, athletics do teach our young people to focus on their goals and work to achieve something - even if it doesn’t get “noticed” by the college coaches.</p>

<p>In reference to the OPs part about athletics hurting an app. if the candidate is not strong enough to play college level sports, I am wondering if me playing golf since freshman year will hurt me. I am a decent golfer, but just not quite at the college level. I have only been playing golf since seventh grade so I am relatively new at the sport. I have dedicated lots of hours and my work has paid off I think. I was named 2007 Co-MVP and I have been a co-captain since freshman year. My team wasn’t great freshman year so that explains that captain part and the MVP. However, my team was better then next two years and we made the playoffs both years (didn’t advance) My scoring average actually went down (especially junior year) but I was not named MVP either years because others went down more and we got some new players. Also, I have qualified for the post season every year but I have not advanced. I have also played in a few small junior tournaments. (best finish Tied 16th). In regards to my other ECs, they are below:
EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES:
key club district-(10-12)-Junior year I was recording secretary, as a senior I hold the #5 position in Key Club International. I have dedicated lots of hours. I had the fourth most hours out of about 140 members junior year and was top 10 in hours as a sophomore I think. We don’t give hour awards, so I can’t really list that though, but I might put it in extra info?
spanish honors society (10-12)
Mu Alpha Theta (11-12)
Science Club (treasurer) (11-12)-Ocean Bowl A team junior and senior years (maybe captain senior year). Science Bowl B team junior/senior years. can’t do sci oly cause its on the same day as ocean bowl :frowning:
Model UN-(11-12)-LAIMUN Outstanding (small conference)
Junior State of America-(11,12): 2008-2009 Co-Secretary, 2008-2009 Expansion agent, 2009-2010 Co-Historian
Students Organized for America’s Homeless (VP) (11-12)
Academic Decathalon (12; new club)-appointed Co-president
High school science fair and science fair that sent students to the intel regional one. I didn’t advance. My project stunk. LOL
Speech and Debate (12)
Camp Escapades volunteer (summer program in which I helped autistic children at a summer camp)
I also participated in a golf camp the summer before junior year
NHS
about 280 hours of community service
Should I be worried?
Thanks!</p>

<p>After being on CC for several months and a few years, I noticed that there’s a huge belief that you must be within the top 75% of academics/test scores to get in. There’s also rumors that if anyone gets in with scores below that, they must be a URM/athlete/legacy, which is really strange. </p>

<p>There also seems to be a myth that if a student only has average stats, that even with great ECs and a strong capability to contribute to the environment, that they won’t be admitted just due to the numbers.</p>

<p>Just my observations, since I don’t really have any personal insight into the process.</p>

<p>^ Regarding the 75%tile belief, I believe that is largely true for highly selective schools. Can you get in below? Sure, but the somewhat arbitrary 75%tile is a good measure because schools report it, and when a college rejects 80-90% of their applicants, it makes sense to use the 75%tile. If schools issued a very detailed breakdown of every decision, I suppose we could abandon the 75%tile measure but until then, I think it’s a very valuable tool.</p>

<p>How is a rank of 15/506 to top colleges? That is barely in the top 3%</p>

<p>Please don’t construe my message to be “Don’t play sports unless you’re great because it will hurt your college chances.” The point of this thread is to debunk common misconceptions … including a widespread belief that students without athletics on their resume will be hurt in the college process. Some CC members might be surprised by how often I hear that.</p>

<p>There are certainly many reasons to play sports besides as a potential route to an elite college. My own son is 12. He plays three sports and loves them. My best guess right now is that none of his sports will turn into a college “hook” for him, but I would never discourage him from taking part as long as he’s enjoying what he’s doing.</p>

<p>But, conversely, if he does at some point want to drop out of organized sports, he will realize that they certainly aren’t a prerequisite to college admissions.</p>

<p>I’m still interested in hearing other “myths” that CC members have encountered throughout the college search and application process.</p>

<p>Popular Myth: Intended major plays a large role in college admissions.</p>

<p>Reality: It only matters when it makes you apply to a different school within the college.</p>

<p>Another myth: You better get a Likely Letter or it’s a sure sign of doom.</p>

<p>Truth: very few schools send LLs. And only a slim portion of any admitted class gets them – the vast majority of admitees don’t receive any.</p>

<p>One of my children is not an athlete, does not play a musical instrument, is not a legacy, is not a URM, & is enrolled at Alfred University as a freshman. Alfred is in Princeton Review’s “Best 371”, “Fiske Guide 2010”, USNWR “Great Schools Great Prices” and is highly ranked in USNWR’s “Master’s Universities Northern”. These so called “hooks” are not necessarily a requirement to gain acceptance to a highly ranked school! Indeed, perhaps myths of “hooks” do more damage than anything else!</p>

<p>^^but you do need all the things your child lacks in order to get into a top school like HYPSM</p>

<p>A common myth is that if you’re Asian, nothing under a 4.0 2350+ SAT will do.</p>

<p>MYTH: USAMO gives automatic admission to MIT</p>

<p>work on that english paper, buddy</p>

<p>I was wondering does your ethnicity affect admissions like hispanic, indian, white, black?</p>

<p>^Definitely.</p>