Well I’m no statistical expert, but I just don’t see how an SAT that is missing two sections is comparable to an SAT that is not. Sure, the SAT itself is not “accurate”, but to take away two sections in addition to that is even worse. I just wish I could see my actual test as well as the one where the sections have been omitted…
@NickFlynn it looks like we are going to have to leave it at agreeing that we disagree. I am thankful I found CC and all the good folks who take the time to share their experiences.
Have a great day, and aloha! 
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"Well I'm no statistical expert ..."<< I think we are getting somewhere!"but I just don’t see how an SAT that is missing two sections is comparable to an SAT that is not. Sure, the SAT itself is not “accurate”, but to take away two sections in addition to that is even worse. <<
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It depends on the scope of your comparison. The format and scope of the test have changed, but that does NOT mean that the validity of the score is suspect. The construction of a 36 questions test could be entirely similar to a test with 54 questions as long as the balance between questions of Level 1 through 5 remains the same. The predictability of the answers and how they compare to the previous pools is part of the “secret scientific sauce” of ETS – and what separates them from its competitors.
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I just wish I could see my actual test as well as the one where the sections have been omitted...<< Oh, I think that everyone should want to see his or her entire test. That is accomplished by sitting on a QAS date. I also wish YOU could see your test. What would you think if you scored LOWER on the deleted questions (see my comment about mental fatigue at the end of the test) and received a higher score than you expected?
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Why does one automatically assume that they did better on the deleted sections? Why does the historical integrity of the test matter to the students who took this test, if the school accept the conclusions of TCB (which they will!)
Perhaps you are in a better position than you think!
@xiggi I understand what you are saying. I am not assuming that I would have done better on the deleted sections than on the adjusted (nobody even has their score reports yet, lol). I’m just concerned because I would prefer to see the whole fruit of my labor, not just a slice. Admittedly, I might look at this situation differently if the adjustment were to improve my grade, but in the end it would still mean that it was not truly reflective of my work, and I would still want to improve and see my true aptitude. Anyway, I’ll follow in @palm715 's footsteps and agree to disagree.
Sorry to anyone, cough @NickFlynn , whom I may have offended in previous posts/rants. I tend to get a little carried away when I’m emotional.
From the College Board’s announcement page:
“However, we have waived the fee for the October SAT administration for students who let us know that their testing experience was negatively affected by the printing error and we will continue to do so.”
So, I contacted them via email: " I’m one of many students who took the June 6th SAT. I was wondering if the fee waiver for the October test is automatically applied when I register or how one would go about obtaining a fee waiver. Also, is there a deadline before the option of obtaining a fee waiver expires? "
The first responder replied:
"Thank you for contacting the College Board.
We have received your e-mail in regards to your SAT account. We will be more than happy to assist you.
We apologize; however, in order for us to access a file, we need to know more about you. To ensure the highest possible security for your account, we need to verify some information. This is required before any changes can be made and before we can provide any information regarding your account. Please complete the following and return it along with your question to the email address above:
{I removed the list to keep this a bit shorter, but it was basically account & student information}
Once we receive this information and can validate an account, we will be happy to assist you with this matter.
For further information or assistance, please feel free to call us at 1 (866) 756-7346 (Domestic), 001 (212) 713-7789 (International), Monday through Friday, from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. (Eastern Time) or visit us at www.collegeboard.org."
Not. Helpful.
But - I dutifully filled out the list and replied to the email.
Take a look at the response I got:
"Thank you for contacting the College Board.
We have received your e-mail in regards to the June 2015 SAT test. We will be more than happy to assist you.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause for you.
In order to assist you with the SAT, please contact our Customer Service Department. A Customer Service Representative will be able to assist you over the phone.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
For further information or assistance, please feel free to call us at 1 (866) 756-7346 (Domestic), 001 (212) 713-7789 (International), Monday through Friday, from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. (Eastern Time) or visit us at www.collegeboard.org."
SO NOT HELPFUL
I don’t want to be on the phone with some rep for ages - all I want is a fee waiver like they said they’d offer.
You will need to call them no matter if you don’t want…
@Jr12317 True, except they could have just told him/her that instead of asking him/her to fill out an entire form–for no reason…
I actually called today and it was pretty easy to request a fee waived test. You just say that u want one and they ask for ur information such as DOB, Name, School, Email… then afterwards they send u a confirmation email to print ur ticket… the call lasted 8 minutes but most of it was them repeating stuff like what to bring, what time to get there stuff of that nature. @Querielicious
@victoriaw98 If we sign up for the fee waiver, will our June scores be deleted?
I tried contacting College Board by email about that concern, and they didn’t answer.
Anyone know if an SAT fee waiver can be used for the SAT II?
This part of the CB statement is making me giggly tonight. Note that none of their examples would impact an entire country of people, and all are things they could not possibly be expected to control.
" From fire drills and power outages to mistiming and disruptive behavior, school-based test administrations can be fragile, so our assessments are not."
@cityonanocean Why would it? SAT 2 test takers were not affected at all.
@Chrysanthemum14 What’s the SAT 2? O_o
I was asking about whether in general, not in this specific case, the SAT & SAT2 fee waivers are interchangeable.
edit: NVM, I just recalled the answer is no
@Aleksandr7
subject tests?
Another concession by the College Board today – in response to pressure from students, parents, counselors, lawyers, media, and FairTest – but still far from sufficient.
http://www.examinercom/article/the-college-board-goes-into-damage-control-mode
That is what FairTest is calling on the College Board to do to make test-takers whole:
- Offer a free retest early this summer, not nearly four months from now in October, for students who need scores sooner
- Cancel scores and refund all registration fees from the June 6 SAT for those who neither trust their reported scores nor want to retake the test
- Rebate a portion of the registration fee to all test-takers because less than 80% of all the questions they paid for are being scored.
- Make any studies and/or data the College Board or ETS have to support the claim that June 6 SAT scores are valid and reliable available to independent experts for review
If the CB is so sure the test should be valid without the two sections, why don’t they score the test with and without the sections, and provide the higher of the two as official score?
Because this is a standardized test.
@BobSchaeff “- Rebate a portion of the registration fee to all test-takers because less than 80% of all the questions they paid for are being scored.”
If you are some sort of plant trying to make FairTest look petty and ridiculous, congratulations and nice work! If that was meant to be taken seriously…