<p>How can you disagree with people who are suing CB?
I mean, these people might have got rejected by their dream schools just because of CB or their chances on getting scholarships are lowered because of CB's lack of accuracy.
Remember that these kids lost up to 400 points.
Put yourself on their position. How would you feel?
Personally, I would be really ****ed.</p>
<p>hey, i wouldn't mind getting an extra 400 points on my SAT. </p>
<p>Of course, that would mean i would get over a 2400, but still.....</p>
<p>no, they didnt get 400 points,
they lost 400 points they deserved to get</p>
<p>MomOfTwoTeens, your ignorance regarding the business world is really appalling. Read a book or something.</p>
<p>ILoveCC2: That's one of the funniest things I've read, since I have an MBA from the school you will be attending. Your naivete is cute, yet immature, highlighting your inability to use deductive reasoning. Whether or not CB is a Monopoly is not the issue. The issue is why CB made such gross errors, hiding it for months.</p>
<p>Good luck to you at Columbia</p>
<p>COLUMBIA OFFICIAL DECISION THREAD
CLASS of 2010
ILoveCC2
Stats: Accepted
Stats:</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT: Cr610 Math590 Wr680</li>
<li>SAT IIs:MathIIC570 Lit670 US Hist630</li>
<li>GPA:3.17</li>
</ul>
<p>Wait, is this columbia university in nyc? those statistics do not seem at all in line with their official statistics. is it a different columbia? I am confused. Perhaps I missed a piece of the correspondence. Just curious.</p>
<p>people are always out to get money for something. like the lady who sued McDonalds b/c her coffee was too hot. the laws are made so that if u do sue, you won't win if you tried...Like here in Wisconsin, the latest case--State of Wisconsin vs Frank Jude Jr. (Jude [a black man] was beaten up by off-duty police officers a few months back.) The all-white jury voted in favor of the state. u can fight the law, but u can't beat it, as many people throughout history have tried.</p>
<p>There are reports of some scores being off by almost 300 points. Not only will that affect the decision the colleges make, it will totally affect the student when choosing where to apply. Some exceptional athletes or musicians with lower SAT's were doubtless denied entry to a fine college where they otherwise might have been able to play their instument or their sport...Frankly, this probably affects you 2400 types with Ivy apps. a little less. But I know a girl who was rejected by an eastern university, her dream school, because she had only a 590 in math and the cut-off (according to info they gave her) was 600. (Even though her gpa was 3.85, and they only required a 3.7) She might not have gotten in with the 600, but she didn't even try. How many mis-scored kids like that will never know what opportunities they were cheated out of when they decided not to apply to a university that actually requires a minimal number on SAT's?! Don't forget, in some universities, the numbers are the first cut. Don't expect the schools to make this right with everyone...it's not their fault or their responsibility. College Board justifiably should face significant penalties. Anyone curious if this has happened before????!! Thanks for letting me vent!!!</p>
<p>haha...this is what CB wrote...</p>
<p>The processing of the April 2006 SAT scores has gone smoothly. In scoring the April SAT, we have implemented a series of enhanced quality controls, including scanning each answer sheet twice, on different days. Our scanning vendor, Pearson Educational Measurement, reports to us that they have not seen a repeat of the problem experienced in October 2005. As a result, we want to assure students and schools that they should maintain the high level of confidence that they have always had in scores from the SAT.</p>
<p>What if it happens again?? they got the guts to say this too...</p>
<p>Too many lawyers in this world.</p>
<p>end of story.</p>
<p>Having them scanned twice by a company that can't scan correctly DOES NOTHING FOR QUALITY CONTROL. </p>
<p>It was raining on April 1, (SAT day), at least on the east coast, just like it was on the infamous Oct 8. How come "humidity" wasn't an issue?</p>
<p>To Kinkosmom: I double & tripled checked ILOVECC2's post before I copied & pasted it. The poster stated in Columbia/Ivy League he's not URM, doesn't have many ECs & lives in NY. </p>
<p>The only thing I can think of is that there are many schools with the word "Columbia" in it, & CC only lists forums for the Columbia/Ivy in NY. Maybe the poster was accepted at a different Columbia & posted to the wrong. (there are colleges with the word Columbia in it in Puerto Rico, Wash, Ca)</p>
<p>OK, my scores were changed 290 pts, some of you might have read the article but the points were not even the biggest problem. CB says they will do the rescore for $50. It took me almost two full months of being redirected to different people in CB and eventually a threat to sue to get them to actually do that. I just had to say that. In regards to the class action suit, it is not at all like a projector failing during a presentation becuase many scholorships require a certain SAT score. Nor is this like the McDonalds coffee thing because the only damage to the lady was it burnt her tounge, were talking about peoples futures here. Also, I recieved my real scores and my ED acceptance on the same day, so how would these Oct scores be available for other people applying ED? I can say from personal experience that this mistake caused quite a bit of chaos and frustration and it didnt even affect my ED decision. Even if this law suit does not win, it still needed to be done to keep in CB in check.</p>
<p>To: Cliffhanger474
you paid money to get your test rescored? I got mine for free, and it went from 1800 to 2050!</p>
<p>yea i was one of the original few that got mine rescored however we were refunded when they found the error</p>
<p>thorazineshuffle: to many lawyers in this world</p>
<p>I think this is like chicken and the egg...which came first lawer or people...and when "lawyers" sue...they want their "portion" too...but seriously...this kid filling a sue...i dont support it...i think CB and the rest who is behind CB learned that they are not perfect...if kids are sueing...i just want a policy change...such as...they dont threat of lower score when we turn it in for rescoring...etc..etc...</p>
<p>My conclusion is that....sueing CB wont do significant good for the "suing" student, the "would-be" college students, parents, and the CB....and i'll be mad when the suit is over million per kid...b/c that is greed rather than..."really caring about them going to college"...i know that they are hurt...but sometimes....things we just let go...life is life..and IF you belive in God...trust him and move on...</p>
<p>this i agree:
Even if this law suit does not win, it still needed to be done to keep in CB in check.
but if the kid or kids...sue them millions...??...i dont think that is necessary</p>
<p>wow crzystuff chill with the excesive punctuation</p>
<p>SAT scores are becoming of more importance in the country--esp. since now, some of the major midwestern states are making a big deal over SAT1 and SAT2, the new ACT.</p>
<p>Yes. SAT scores are unbelievably important especially for students from schools that do not rank (many privates do not rank so as not to privilege certain students but as at many, though not all of course, private schools, many students are high achievers and grades are often inflated so most kids get very high grades and someone with a 3.7 might be at the bottom half of their private school class. But private schools' decision not to rank has back fired I think and now most colleges put more emphasis on the SATs.</p>
<p>When we went on college visits, many schools said SATs were not that important but I believe that they really are very important, despite what schools say and especially if there is a discrepency between grades and SATs.</p>
<p>So what College Board does is incredibly important and they need to be held to very high standards. </p>
<p>I believe one solution is to have students submit a couple of papers signed by teacher and documented by school that students wrote for school. Teachers would attest to their believing that the student completed it himself and the colleges could also see how tough the grading is in that child's class. </p>
<p>This authentic writing would be a more real indicator of student performance in college classes. The writing sample on sat is too brief and student could panic and freeze. The college essays may have been written with a lot of professional help. I believe that the idea of submitting school papers with teacher comments would give colleges a much fuller sense of how that person would perform in an authentic academic situation. By asking for two or three papers--perhaps in a couple of different subjects--you could get a real sense of the range and consistency of the child's writing and thinking.</p>
<p>All the other indicators --sats, grades, etc--are more unreliable. Kids could freeze on sats and an A in one class may bear no resemblance to an A in another. With the paper written for school and authorized by teacher, the school can read and think first hand about the kid's work. Only a couple of schools ask for this and I think more should.</p>
<p>No reason to call me names. I am not an imposter, nor a half-wit. Looking at your stats, well... I think they say it all.</p>
<p>Have fun a Columbia College.. Which one are you attending: Columbia College in Columbia, SC - or Columbia College in Columbia, Missouri? </p>
<p>COLUMBIA OFFICIAL DECISION THREAD
CLASS of 2010
ILoveCC2
Stats: Accepted
Stats:</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT: Cr610 Math590 Wr680</li>
<li>SAT IIs:MathIIC570 Lit670 US Hist630</li>
<li>GPA:3.17</li>
</ul>
<p>Isn't that amusing! First you imply that the test is somehow unreliable because of scanning errors, then you try to use those scores against me? That doesn't logically follow. It was already clear that knew nothing about business or statistics, apparently you know nothing about rational thought either.</p>