College Confidential Forum Ranking of American Undergraduate Schools

<p>Once again current; reflecting about 50 individuals:</p>

<p>Princeton (44)
Harvard (43)
Stanford (43)
Yale (42)
MIT (34)
Columbia (33)
UPenn (28)
Dartmouth (26)
Duke (23)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (8)
Swarthmore (7)
Johns Hopkins (6)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)</p>

<p>Princeton (45)
Harvard (44)
Stanford (44)
Yale (43)
MIT (35)
Columbia (34)
UPenn (29)
Dartmouth (27)
Duke (24)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (8)
Swarthmore (7)
Johns Hopkins (6)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)
WashU in St.Louis (1)</p>

<ul>
<li>Willmingtonwave's opinion</li>
</ul>

<p>Princeton (45)
Harvard (44)
Stanford (44)
Yale (43)
MIT (35)
Columbia (34)
UPenn (29)
Dartmouth (27)
Duke (24)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (8)
Swarthmore (7)
Johns Hopkins (6)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)
WashU in St.Louis (2)</p>

<p>Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
UPenn
Dartmouth
Swarthmore
Georgetown
Johns Hopkins </p>

<p>Princeton (46)
Harvard (45)
Stanford (45)
Yale (44)
MIT (35)
Columbia (35)
UPenn (30)
Dartmouth (28)
Duke (24)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (9)
Swarthmore (8)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)
WashU in St.Louis (2)</p>

<p>Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
UPenn
Dartmouth
MIT
WashU
Duke</p>

<p>Princeton (47)
Harvard (46)
Stanford (46)
Yale (45)
MIT (36)
Columbia (36)
UPenn (31)
Dartmouth (29)
Duke (25)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (9)
Swarthmore (8)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)
WashU in St.Louis (3)</p>

<p>UCLAri - true story, from the distant past. In 1969 I was spending a quarter at UC San Diego - then a new school, but which had attracted a number of distinguished academics drawn to the location and research opportunities. A friend of mine had missed a chemistry exam and was given an opportunity to make it up with an oral quiz. When she arrived at the classroom at the designated hour she was startled to realize that there were two emeritus professors, in the back of the room deep in conversation - both Nobel Laureates.</p>

<p>She failed the test. "I totally froze" she told me. "I mean, these guys were Nobel Prize winners - two of them - and I'm supposed to be prattling on about basic Chem 1 stuff to my Prof. I couldn't do it."</p>

<p>Now while I am certainly biased as I will be a Swarthmore student next fall, I don't see why Georgetown or even Cornell ranks above it. I would assert that upwards of 75% of students going to Swat had been accepted to either Georgetown and Cornell and chose Swarthmore.</p>

<p>But then again we can't be very precise considering we don't know the parameters by which to judge schools...so, in conclusion, eh. Everyone hates lists but still strives to be closer to the all-elusive #1 spot.</p>

<p>Princeton (47)
Harvard (46)
Stanford (46)
Yale (45)
MIT (36)
Columbia (36)
UPenn (31)
Dartmouth (29)
Duke (25)
Caltech (22)
Uchicago (20)
Brown (16)
UC-Berkeley (14)
Amherst (13)
Northwestern (12)
Williams (11)
Cornell (10)
Georgetown (9)
Swarthmore (8)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (6)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (3)
WashU in St.Louis (3)</p>

<p>The top 12 matches US News, Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, National Merit Scholarship etc. </p>

<p>Looks like CC posters know their stuff?</p>

<p>Continuing the updates...</p>

<p>Princeton (53)
Stanford (52)
Harvard (51)
Yale (51)
Columbia (40)
MIT (39)
UPenn (33)
Dartmouth (31)
Duke (26)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (20)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Amherst (15)
Northwestern (14)
Williams (12)
Cornell (12)
Georgetown (10)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (5)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (3)
Tufts (3)</p>

<p>Princeton (54)
Stanford (53)
Yale (52)
Harvard (51)
Columbia (40)
MIT (40)
UPenn (33)
Dartmouth (31)
Duke (27)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (20)
Amherst (16)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Williams (12)
Cornell (12)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (3)
Tufts (3)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>

<p>Princeton (55)
Stanford (54)
Yale (53)
Harvard (52)
Columbia (40)
MIT (41)
UPenn (34)
Dartmouth (32)
Duke (28)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (20)
Amherst (17)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Williams (12)
Cornell (13)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (7)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (4)
Tufts (3)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>

<p>Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
UPenn
Darthmouth
Amherst
Johns Hopkins
Columbia</p>

<p>Princeton (56)
Stanford (55)
Yale (54)
Harvard (53)
Columbia (41)
MIT (42)
UPenn (35)
Dartmouth (33)
Duke (28)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (20)
Amherst (18)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Williams (12)
Cornell (13)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (8)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (4)
Tufts (3)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>

<p>Update from the other thread:</p>

<p>Princeton (56)
Stanford (55)
Yale (55)
Harvard (54)
MIT (43)
Columbia (41)
UPenn (36)
Dartmouth (34)
Duke (28)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (21)
Amherst (19)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Cornell (13)
Williams (12)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (8)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (4)
Tufts (4)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>

<p>Your method is beyond questionable, this listing is completely meaningless. If we were talking about automobiles, Ford would be ranked higher than Maserati. Amherst < Duke, Williams < Northwestern, Swarthmore < Georgetown in terms of quality, prestige and exclusivity? I have my complaints about USNews, but jeez.</p>

<p>googlebot, why exactly is Duke being ranked higher than Amherst so outrageous?</p>

<p>Even though Amherst is like 1/5 the size of Duke, Duke enrolls students with higher average SAT scores, a higher % of students in the top 10% of the class, more students going to top law/biz/med schools proportionally, and more National Merit Scholars proportionally. And of course, it has graduate programs that give it an international rep as an additional boost (though unrelated to undergrad strength). </p>

<p>Care to elaborate? AWS are great schools, but its absolutely not surprising to see them ranked below Ivies and Ivy-plus schools like Duke and NU.</p>

<p>Refer to the disclaimer in the first post and the title of this board. The purpose was not to provide an objective analysis of the colleges, but rather to find out what those on the CC boards thought about their top 10 colleges.</p>

<p>Your complaint is legitimate, googlebot, but doesn't address what this forum seeks to establish.</p>

<p>I thought we were talking about undergraduate schools? Therefore, graduate programs should play no part. Not to mention AWS represents a road less traveled for most of the country. Most of the people I've talked too never considered upper ranked LAC's. Why, perceived social drawbacks such as a drawn back sports culture, not because of the undergrad education. I think that most of these rankings as this site are just people and their need to feel special. You would never really know how to rank the schools except if you attended every one of them.</p>

<p>kman - you can still compare schools using objective data...and assuming social scene is the same at each one or is unimportant. </p>

<p>Princeton (56)
Stanford (55)
Yale (55)
Harvard (54)
MIT (43)
Columbia (41)
UPenn (36)
Dartmouth (34)
Duke (28)
Caltech (25)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (21)
Amherst (19)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Cornell (13)
Williams (12)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (8)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (4)
Tufts (4)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>

<p>But the data you claim is objective isn't. SAT's don't mean anything because schools like Stanford and Amherst could accept students with higher SAT's but choose not to because SAT's are not tell-all. And smaller schools like AWS attract a different type of student - I would argue more intellectual candidates and fewer I might as well apply to Harvard ones, though that is beside the point. So acceptance rates aren't comparable either.</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
Brown
Dartmouth
Columbia
Caltech
Penn</p>

<p>Princeton (57)
Stanford (56)
Yale (56)
Harvard (55)
MIT (44)
Columbia (42)
UPenn (37)
Dartmouth (35)
Duke (28)
Caltech (26)
Uchicago (24)
Brown (22)
Amherst (19)
UC-Berkeley (15)
Northwestern (14)
Cornell (13)
Williams (12)
Georgetown (11)
Swarthmore (9)
Johns Hopkins (8)
Rice (7)
UMich (6)
UVA (6)
Pomona (4)
WashU in St.Louis (4)
Tufts (4)
USMA (1)
USNA (1)</p>