<p>hookem168, </p>
<p>the only problem is that the lead Texas now holds over OU in computer rankings will cut down after OU plays OSU and beats them.
and if it's a blowout, then...</p>
<p>We just have to hope it won't be another blowout</p>
<p>true, jbusc, but we have another Heisman Trophy candidate :)</p>
<p>^ it won't be a blowout. OSU is a tough team. And we're going to blow out A&M, so it'll even out. Remember, the reason UT is even close to losing its rank to OU is that UT had a bye last week. This week it's even.</p>
<p>^ lol, can't take A&M for granted either. The whole season they wait for this game..</p>
<p>OSU plays them well at Stillwater.
Series results in Stillwater since 2000:</p>
<p>2000 OU 12-7
2002 OSU 38-28
2004 OU 38-35
2006 OU 27-21</p>
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@ austin, well, as of now, you're completely wrong. Texas is currently ranked #2 in the BCS polls, ahead of OU. Now, they are all the way down to #4 in the Coaches' and AP polls, but that doesn't matter when averaged out with Texas' overwhelming lead over OU in the computer rankings. So, unless Texas loses to A&M, they'll stay at #2, go to the Big 12 championship game, beat Missouri, and play Alabama or Florida for the title
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<p>I went to UT, and I'm definitely rooting for them, but they ARE NOT making the national championship unless TTU loses. They are only 0.009 BCS points ahead of OU, and OU will leap them after they dismantle OSU this weekend. UT may be #2 now, but they are riding on the fact that they already got to play OSU (which adds to their SOS). OU hasn't had that yet.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think OU vs Florida (which is the obvious national championship to anyone thats been paying attention the last month) should be really good anyways.</p>
<p>^^ that's true, but there was a lot of emotional voting in the polls last week.
there was a lot of hype built up around that game for two loongg weeks, and the turnout left many people stunned.
this week, however, some votes might swing our way(if OSU-OU is a nail-biter), and people might think more logically. Media has started portraying us a lot better. Previous week it was all Sooners. </p>
<p>Our lead in computer rankings will cut down nevertheless.</p>
<p>Just wondering, but did anyone happen to see the total domination by NC State over UNC this weekend?</p>
<p>Yes!! Go Wolfpack! :)</p>
<p>We can only hope the same happens in basketball season... ;)</p>
<p>Frankly the computer rankings are ready to go berserk. There's simply not enough information in just W-L record to compute the rankings in any sensible way. </p>
<p>They're not even internally consistent in any way. For example, one computer poll (sagarin) ranks two-loss Oklahoma State higher than one-loss teams USC, Penn State, and Florida, and two-loss Georgia and Ohio State, despite the fact that poll assigns Oklahoma State by far the lowest strength-of-schedule of any of those teams (#56 schedule)</p>
<p>Hate to be the homer here, but....</p>
<p>FLORIDA WILL BE THE NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!</p>
<p>^ You just gotta get past Alabama. No biggie, right? ;)</p>
<p>course not. The way alabama's strength of schedule is collapsing under them, the only thing keeping them in the national title hunt is: 1) they're undefeated, and 2) they would have beaten Florida if they're SEC champs, 3) the SEC champ gets some extra love because of "conference strength"</p>
<p>Frankly, their strength-of-schedule is hardly better than USC's (to date - of course beating florida ups the ante a bit):</p>
<p>Clemson (6-5), Tulane (2-9), Western Kentucky (2-9), Arkansas (4-7), Georgia (9-2), Kentucky (6-5), Ole Miss (7-4), Tenn (4-7), Arkansas St. (5-5), LSU (7-4), Miss. St (4-7) </p>
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<li>Overall opponents: 56-64 (0.467) with ONE current-top-25 opponent</li>
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<p>Virginia(5-6), Ohio State (10-2), Oregon State (8-3), Oregon (8-3), Ariz. St (4-6), Wash St (2-10), Wash (0-11), Cal (7-4), Stanford (5-7) </p>
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<li>Overall opponents: 49-52 (0.485) with THREE current-top-25 opponents</li>
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<p>Frankly I don't see how Florida isn't just going to stomp the tide into the ground.</p>
<p>Shoot, forgot arizona (6-5) :) That would make USC's opponents 55-57 (0.491)</p>
<p>I don't think Alabama will beat Florida, we're the better team. AL is overrated. </p>
<p>My prediction is FL v. OK. A SEC v. Big 12 showdown. In recent years, The SEC has dominated the Big 10. Now it's the Big 12's turn. Next year or two, it will be the Pac-10's turn. (sorry I couldn't resist)</p>
<p>^I can't wait to see AL getting exposed too (just like LSU and I was so happy to get my wish!). GatorEng23, I think SEC teams are kinda overrated and by saying AL is overrated, you are kinda with me on that. You guys need to schedule tougher OOC teams so we can see how good your conference really is. That said, I think FL is one of the best 3 teams in the nation and I am rooting for your team to get into the NC. Good luck!</p>
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You guys need to schedule tougher OOC teams so we can see how good your conference really is.
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<em>Looks up *Mild*cats OOC schedule</em></p>
<p>oooh...Syracuse, Duke and Southern Illinois...:rolleyes:</p>
<p>A Big 10 guy should not being giving crap to an SEC guy about OOC schedules.</p>
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^I can't wait to see AL getting exposed too (just like LSU and I was so happy to get my wish!). GatorEng23, I think SEC teams are kinda overrated and by saying AL is overrated, you are kinda with me on that. You guys need to schedule tougher OOC teams so we can see how good your conference really is. That said, I think FL is one of the best 3 teams in the nation and I am rooting for your team to get into the NC. Good luck!
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<p>I kind of agree. SEC is a little overrated, but Florida is legit. :)</p>
<p>Does anyone think the Sooners might get upset by Okie State? Just wondering. The Sooners are obviously very good and have all the momentum right now. But Okie State is a solid team who is coming off a bye week and will be playing at home.</p>
<p>It's important to note that Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma all had their one loss away from home. None have lost at home. Oklahoma might lose on the road, like Texas Tech and Texas did. Home field advantage in the Big 12 has been a HUGE factor this year.</p>
<p>And of course, everyone is assuming Missouri will be a doormat and that the Big South champ will cakewalk to the National Championship. Who seriously knows though. Who really thinks Gary Pinkel, Chase Daniel and Co. are just sitting on their heels, calmly waiting to get slaughtered? I'm willing to bet Mizzou's coaches go through every practice not letting their players forget that the nation is expecting them to fail. I'm also willing to bet they're not letting anyone forget how last year they were #1 but managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the last weekend of college football. I just don't think Mizzou will go down quietly, but no one is giving them respect.</p>
<p>Same goes for the SEC Championship game. Florida will most likely beat FSU, but again, they're not at home. I'm sure the Seminoles know that if they win this game, they get to spoil the hopes of their in-state arch-rivals. Can anyone imagine a USC-UCLA 2006 scenario in which the team that was supposed to coast through a "weak" rivalry game and go to the National Championship instead got ambushed? </p>
<p>And, again, who's to say that Alabama won't beat Florida? Like Mizzou, people are counting the Tide out when no one should be that cocky, especially in the last couple of weekends of the season. ;)</p>
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And of course, everyone is assuming Missouri will be a doormat and that the Big South champ will cakewalk to the National Championship. Who seriously knows though. Who really thinks Gary Pinkel, Chase Daniel and Co. are just sitting on their heels, calmly waiting to get slaughtered? I'm willing to bet Mizzou's coaches go through every practice not letting their players forget that the nation is expecting them to fail. I'm also willing to bet they're not letting anyone forget how last year they were #1 but managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the last weekend of college football. I just don't think Mizzou will go down quietly, but no one is giving them respect.
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<p>I'm not sure about this.. not at this point. This line of thinking is what got Mizzou in trouble earlier in the year-- they were looking ahead too much. This week's focus, if your a Missouri Tiger, has to be on kicking the snot out of the Kansas Jayhawks Saturday night. Mizzou is a good football team.. real good football team. I would not expect another blowout to Texas or whoever comes out of the South. </p>
<p>Another thing to consider.. you mentioned the home field advantage concept in the Big 12 this year and for the most part I have to agree with you. I'm pretty sure the Big 12 Championship game is at Arrowhead in Kansas City, MO. Sound like home field for the Tigers to you?</p>
<p>Rachel, I completely agree with your whole post. That is why the games are played on the field and not decided by statisticians numbers or by blowhard sports reporters who set up a storyline before the game ever begins. </p>
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<li>Anyone remember the Miami-Penn State game back in the 80's, where no matter what Penn State did, the commentators kept saying, "Don't count out Heisman Trophy winner Vinnie Testaverde" to the point that they didn't even mention the Penn State player's name who scored the winning touchdown? I will never forget watching that, being so mad that the reporters had the game signed, sealed and delivered to Miami before it even began.</li>
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<p>That's, IMO, why the human polls are bogus to a large extent. Teams become the "Popular Kid" and they are hyped beyond their true worth. Who's to say who is truly playing their best RIGHT NOW at the end of the season? That's what so special about the basketball NCAA tournament at the end of the year. It doesn't matter how hyped your team has been since October, it only matters how you play in that one game at the end of the season, after you are battle worn and tested.</p>
<p>I wish there was some way to have a football playoff. The BCS ranking system will continue to be assailed as a failure, but there is too much money involved to make a change. IF there was a playoff, who knows, maybe lowly un-respected Ball State could make a run and win the national championship like some of the Cinderella basketball teams. </p>
<p>It could happen;)</p>
<p>Not that this would resolve much controversy, but one possibility I wouldn't be sad to see would be simple selection for the championship game after the bowls are played.</p>
<p>In this way, you elevate one current non-BCS bowl to being a BCS bowl (to preserve the number of BCS slots at 10). You then seed every BCS conference champion as their conference's tie-in - i.e., the Pac-10 champ always plays the Big-10 champ in the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl picks the SEC champ, etc, and the remaining BCS bowl spots are filled with at-large and non-BCS undefeateds, as usual. Then there's a title game playing the #1-#2 in the BCS one week after the last BCS bowl on Jan 4, which would be Jan 11.</p>
<p>It preserves tradition (Rose Bowl), the regular season (still have to be undefeated/one-loss most years), and gives voters a one last big-opponent glance at each team (negating weak strength of schedule, whether intentional FCS opponents, or weak conference). It still wouldn't give a "True Champion"(TM) and would probably give more controversy given that 1-loss teams that are completely out of the title hunt now, would have a chance to get back in it (like if Penn State beat USC in the Rose Bowl, say) but I have to think that it's better than what we got right now.</p>