Yes. Definitely easier but not a shoo in. This is my current senior. He has a 3.98 unweighted (one 88 in 9th grade honors history but rest As), 6 APs (which is high rigor for his school), rest honors, 35 ACT and a legacy or double legacy (which they do consider). Still deferred. Hope he gets in next week!
Oldest who is there was the top in his class and lots of ECs and volunteering. Even close to top doesn’t guarantee it in state even.
Thank you @VirginiaBelle , understood. Its very humbling to see even with best possible score nothing is guranteed in the world of college admissions.
UW is a top choice, since you’re in-state, and it’s in the middle of a big tech hub city. The CS program is ridiculously competitive, even for top students. The good news is that CS is absurdly employable, so you could do just as well going to WSU.
Absolutely. And definitely consider schools where you are direct admitted to CS. Getting in and applying later does not always bode well as many who applied to UVAs business school just found out. Always have a plan b if you are not a direct admit.
I believe that OP should shop himself around if he doesn’t get into UW-CS.
His stats are great and he should be able to get into a top notch school.
Yes, CS is employable, but jobs differ! And some jobs are easier to get from
some schools. (As someone who is currently looking for a dev I can attest to)
The OOS admit rate for Michigan and GT are similar with GT being slightly lower (19 percent for Michigan and 14 percent for GT). GT is 40 percent OOS kids which probably explains part of it if the 50 percent number for OOS at Michigan above is correct.
Thank you @VirginiaBelle for the detail. Sorry I am not clear, in the first line you say OOS admit rate for Michigan is 19% and Georgia Tech is 14%. But in the second line you say GT is 40% OOS kids and Michigan is 50% OOS kids. Bit confusing. Are you saying both GT & Michigan are admitting more instate kids however most of them don’t join those universities hence OOS students constitute 40%/50% of student population even with less admit rates.
just a function of how many more OOS kids are out there (that apply to GT …)
Michigan acceptance rate is roughly the same for OOS or in-state …
for GT it’s
" Georgia residents were accepted at a 39.1% rate compared to 16.5% for non-Georgia"
Michigan is more fair that way (I guess they need the OOS money that much more)
GT is at least 40% OOS/International. I think it’s a little more if I remember correctly. That’s still pretty high for a state school. Their undergrad enrollment is probably half of what Michigan enrolls so admit rates don’t tell the whole picture.
If OP is a Washington resident aren’t they part of an exchange? I think it’s the WUE?
Google as a corporation hires more students from Waterloo than any other University in the world? What’s the source for that?
Waterloo is a gigantic mostly engineering (thing math/cs) school though
Thanks Everyone. So based on above discussions , I am considering
1.UW-Seattle
2. UCB/UCLA
3.U.Mich -EA
4. Purdue
5. Duke (CS+ Linguistics)
6. Rose Hulman
My parents are suggesting me to include Northwestern and UNC,where they graduated from.
Any other suggestions? Should I apply to any other school with ED option?
Two things. First, are they affordable or will you need merit/FA to attend? If so, they’re reaches. Sit down with your parents and run the NPC for each. Second, that’s an impressive list. You need a safety or two on the list.
I remember seeing a list/ranking and schools like the University of Seattle did well. Not because they were ranked high for academics but because they got students jobs. Being close to Seattle or SV has advantages.
Duke ED greatly increases your chances. No idea about their CS program.
You need some safeties.
I did not state Google hires more from Waterloo than anywhere else.
I did link to a Canadian article about the connection. Below is another citing the large number of Waterloo grads hired by Google. It’s something people in Silicon Valley have known about for years. Why Silicon Valley Recruiters Are Flocking to Ontario - WSJ
Thanks Everyone. So based on above discussions , I am considering
1.UW-Seattle
2. UCB/UCLA
3.U.Mich -EA
4. Purdue
5. Duke (CS+ Linguistics)
6. Rose Hulman
My parents are suggesting me to include Northwestern and UNC,where they graduated from.
Any other suggestions? Should I apply to any other school with ED option?
You should only apply ED if you have a clear favorite - you are committing to attend there if accepted. For schools that have EA - you get an early answer without the commitment - certainly take advantage of it. Purdue, for example, nearly fills it’s CS from EA applicants. So certainly apply EA there.
I’d still throw GT into the mix, even if you don’t want to apply to the big reaches.
Also be sure to have a couple of safeties - Though you’ve very likely to get into at least one of the above, don’t bet the farm on it.
I did not state Google hires more from Waterloo than anywhere else.
OK. Perhaps Canada has a different interpretation of “top”, as in “Tops for CS hires into Google” and “Google’s top choice”, other than “highest in position, rank, or degree.”
Just my opinion:
I think that UW-seattle is a great university for CS. I would not apply ED anywhere else unless you are very sure that (i) you actually want to go elsewhere; (ii) you are going to be okay with the traveling; (iii) you can afford the other option; (iv) given the relative affordability of the great CS program at UW, that it would be worth paying the cost to go somewhere else. Just because you do not qualify for need based aid, does not always mean that you can ignore the cost of university.
I think that you need to add a safety. WSU seems like the obvious choice. There might also be something in WUE.
I am not convinced that your out of state public schools are going to be worth the additional cost compared to UW-seattle. UCB is of course even slightly higher ranked (with the emphasis on “slightly”), but would be a lot more expensive and is probably less likely for admission.
Regarding the discussion of schools in Canada, I did not suggest Waterloo partly due to the distance. It is very good, but large and far away. The reason that I mentioned the schools in the west is because they are relatively close by for you, and are also very good. I do not think that they are quite safeties but admission in Canada is very stats oriented, and your stats are great.
Being legacy will give you a boost from OOS (UNC factors in legacy for OOS, but not IS). However, it’s a reach school for anyone, so agree with others about adding a couple safeties that you could actually see yourself attending.
I agree … I’d burn my ED on UW. It’s such a great option for you.
Like others, I think UW is your best option by far if you can get the CS direct admit.
Many good schools have been mentioned. A few that don’t get mentioned a lot but which might be reasonably priced and worth a look as backups: Utah, Colorado Mines, Oregon State (if CS is WUE eligible).
Personally, I don’t think UCB and UIUC are good deals for OOS.