Probably, but I will have her look at it some more. Their sports have had some exciting times in the past, but not regularly, so that’s not her preferred college experience.
I’ll just comment on your list - is there a reason “only” 7 APs - and that’s great btw - but I think that will hinder Duke except the ED and legacy thing…unless 7 is a large # vs. # of offerings. It’s fantastic but even for the second level schools it’s on the low side.
Any idea on her major? She’ll pick one or undecided but that’s ok - it’ll be less impacted - for example, vs. engineering. Pre-law as you know at most schools is advisory and you can major in anything. Most major in poli-sci so in many ways it’s good not to - and she doesn’t need a major yet.
If I were to look at your list and provided there are a lot more APs offered and she settled on seven, I’d say Duke, Yale, UVA, and Vandy are unlikely.
I think UNC is likely - I know some say the county matters, but I think the school disputes this. But you’ll be in because you’re in-state. Out of state is much more difficult.
NC State will be in.
U fo SC Honors will be in.
FSU will be in. Honors I’m not so sure. My daughter got into UGA and U of SC Honors and yet waitlisted at Pitt Honors (we declined admission) and rejected at FSU. While I know ASU and U of SC are considered the top Honors, I don’t think they are necessarily the hardest admits. FSU is surprisingly hard to get into for OOS although you’ll cruise in. You will get the OOS waiver as you noted.
UF same - Honors very difficult. But you will get in, likely no merit.
U Miami - you can spend the $50 (it’s an easy app) - maybe you entered in something incorrectly. Yes, different colleges reward differently but other than loans vs. no-loans, etc. it shouldn’t be insanely different.
Great list - if it’s long and you have time to visit some, you might be able to eliminate - like an FSU/UF trip - and save some essay writing. And knowing that UVA will much much higher priced, than say FSU or U of SC Honors, that could save you time too - unless you don’t care.
Great list…wonderful student. Congrats.
Vanderbilt has an ED2 round which offers greater chances vs. Rd. That is just in case Duke does not work out. I hope it does!
They are only allowed to take 1 AP in 9th, 2 in 10th and no more than 3 in 11th and 12th. That would have given her a max of 9. However, the school is smaller and due to schedule conflicts many of the AP classes are only offered during one class period. Several she wanted to take overlapped, so she was unable to take them. She could have done dual enrollment, but knowing her target was Duke, none of the credits would have transferred. AP credits do transfer to some degree. Applying for Trinity makes it more limited though, compared to my current Duke senior who is in Pratt, where they are allowed more AP credits. She asked her counselor about her rigor and her counselor said it would be considered most rigorous in her class.
Common misconception about Duke. Dual credits can and do transfer. It is a different process than AP/IB, but seeing as your child has AP courses already, I agree, no point in taking DE with the limit of transfer credits Duke allows.
Unless that was what you meant?
OK - that’s why I asked - so that’s great. I mean, Duke is a tough nut to crack for anyone but she’d definitely put her best foot forward.
The thing I like is you have balance.
If going to UF or FSU or U of SC Honors is a back stop, it’s not a back stop to have.
Good luck to her though - hope she’s a Blue Devil!! She’ll certainly have an opportunity.
Dang - anyone know why the edit feature is gone?
I mean to say about the Florida schools - it’s not a bad back stop to have.
And there’s still UNC. And who knows, if you were willing to pay UVA.
She’ll be fine no matter what is what I’m trying to say.
Unfortunately it is not that cut and dry. For Trinity, for any pre-matriculation credits earned, all of the 9 following criteria need to be met:
- were taken on the college campus;
- were taken in competition with degree candidates of that college;
- were taught by a regular member of the college faculty;
- were part of the regular curriculum of the college;
- were taken after commencement of your junior year of high school;
- were not taken on a study abroad program completed prior to matriculation at Duke–restriction does not apply to transfer students if such credit was granted at the former institution;
- yielded a grade of B- or better;
- were not pre-calculus or English composition courses; and
- were not used to meet high school diploma requirements.
The majority of the dual enrollment credits offered in our area are online courses through a local CC, so they do not qualify. The students needs to physically attend the class on the campus. They are also dual enrollment specific, meaning that the other students in the class are not part of the degree program of the CC. Also, many students will take their US History course through dual enrollment, however for Duke purposes, since it is a graduation requirement in the state of NC, you would be better off to take the AP version since it would be the only way to even get college credit.
Also, for Trinity students, only two such credits (or AP or IB) will count towards graduation requirements. They can be used to place you into higher courses and will be placed on your transcript, but will not allow you to graduate early. Which honestly, that is why a lot of students take AP and Dual Enrollment courses, so they can start their matriculation a year or more ahead, thus saving on undergraduate costs.
I was following you. Thanks for the input. The next tow and a half months will seem like forever, I am sure.
Two. Edit feature would be nice. Lol
My child is currently attending Duke as well. His DE courses were from a NC community college, and granted credit.
Hence, why I said can be accepted, just a different process.
But, like I said in previous post, I agree with you, there would have been no point in DE because your child already has AP and Duke has a limit in credits. I was just making sure I wasn’t repeating what you had already said.
How does he like it now that it it closer to being back to normal? My senior was fortunate to have her first two years normal, minus the shut down right after the UNC game, and is thankful to have her Senior year be more like the first two. WE are looking forward to being on Campus next weekend for Family weekend, especially since we missed last year.
I wish DE was an option for her, but unfortunately we knew she would not meet the stringent criteria so we pushed forward with the AP route. We also knew Engineering would not be in her wheelhouse, unlike her sister.
Thanks so much for your input.
He doesn’t really know what “normal” is, since he is a sophomore and pandemic restricted Duke is all he has known. But he has told me he is enjoying this year so far, he said it is much better than Spring where he had both asynchronous and synchronous online classes.
My kid didnt even know that he wanted to go to Duke until the beginning of his HS senior year.
Knowing what school she is most interested in, must have been good to help her pick classes.
Note that colleges’ policies on advanced placement and subject credit for college credit earned while in high school or AP/IB/etc. scores may differ from that on credits toward on the number needed to graduate. Even if the college grants no credits toward the number needed to graduate, it may allow for advanced placement or fulfillment of subject requirements. Sometimes, the opposite occurs, where a college course or AP score is granted credits but is not applicable to any subject requirement or given advanced placement in anything.