<p>Hi I am a junior at seton hall prep (very prestigious high school) </p>
<p>My G.P.A. is around a 3.9</p>
<p>Many Extracurriculars (with leadership skills)
Here is my list of colleges:</p>
<p>Reach:
NYU-Stern
Villanova</p>
<p>Target
U of Miami
Boston University
Northeastern</p>
<p>Safety
Syracuse
St. Joseph's University
University of Maryland College Park</p>
<p>What do you guys think???</p>
<p>seems pretty good. Miami and UMD might switch though.
Depending on SAT scores and stuff, none of these seem like an extreme reach</p>
<p>if you have a 3.9 GPA (I’m assuming on the 4.0 scale), then you should be looking at harder schools!</p>
<p>I was thinking more along the lines of below to add to your list!!</p>
<p>Target/Likely
GW
Tulane
Holy Cross</p>
<p>Target
UMich
BC</p>
<p>Reach
Georgetown
Ivies (double reach)</p>
<p>Agree with lovethema10. You need to shoot higher than your present list.</p>
<p>I think OP list is fine, actually a bit worried there are no safeties… and do not know the OP’s test score(s). Even the schools you state as a safety I couldn’t imagine them being a safety without knowing test score(s).</p>
<p>Lovethelma: Tulane and GW are hardly “reaching higher.” Tulane is desperate for applicants and is a long way from NY. GW okay. NYU-Stern is MUCH more selective. </p>
<p>It is too hard to recommend schools without seeing SAT scores.</p>
<p>I think the comment was for 'likely/target" schools</p>
<p>So…</p>
<p>Target/Likely
GW
Tulane
Holy Cross</p>
<p>vs</p>
<p>Target
U of Miami
Boston University
Northeastern</p>
<p>Considering the selectivity, test scores, ect. I think it’s a fair statement. The recommendation wasn’t for a drastic change in schools (which it wasn’t), but for a slightly more selective list.</p>
<p>On another note, who cares how far the school is from NY? Unless you can’t afford a plane ticket (which is a viable reason to not look outside your region), it shouldn’t matter. Tulane got 40,000 apps for 1500 spots. Granted, they have a free application, but 75% of the school is from more than 500 miles away and it WAS that way before they offered the free application. I wouldn’t call that desperate. In my opinion, they just believe in marketing more than programs with larger sports programs that get free marketing on a consistent basis.</p>
<p>I agree, a 3.9 is meaningless without some standardized test scores. There are a lot of very very well known challenging high schools in this country.</p>
<p>
Get your facts straight. Tulane’s target is around 1400 per class and they got 1500 enrolling fall 2009. And they have had the free app since before Katrina, so the fact that applications have soared from the high teens to what appears to be about 44,000 this year is completely related to the higher profile of the school (Carnegie Award, one of four schools nationwide, and Scott Cowen being named one of the top 10 college presidents by Time Magazine, among other things), the dedication to community service, excellent merit scholarships, and heavy marketing. On the last item, what’s wrong with that? Is Coca-Cola desperate for customers because they advertise a lot? Or Lexus? Ridiculous. BTW, the quality of the average Tulane student has RISEN every year since Katrina, to the point now where the average SAT score (CR, M) is nearing 1400. Sounds pretty desperate to me.</p>
<p>To the OP: Let us know your test scores as soon as you have them, and what AP courses you are taking this year and plan to take next year. That will allow for better recommendations.</p>
<p>Univ Penn reach</p>
<p>Penn isn’t even on his list. It is impossible to chance anyone without standardized test scores, info on challenging courses (i.e. AP’s), etc.</p>
<p>Why does Tulane send everyone spam then? Why the free application? Why are their applications on diner menus? </p>
<p>As far as location, NYUdude names 8 colleges he is appying to. 7 of those eight are a short drive from NYC. He is interested in NYU-Stern so he is obviously looking at business as a major. Most NYC business majors want to eventually work on Wall Street. So you recommend he apply to some school in the south with an unranked business school? ***?</p>
<p>His list is good.</p>
<p>Reaches: </p>
<p>NYU - Stern (Ranked #15 located in NYC)
Villanova (Ranked #11 with a strong recruitment by NYC firms)</p>
<p>Target
U of Miami (Odd choice, I would substitute Fordham)
Boston University (ranked 43 and located in Boston)
Northeastern (Ranked 27 and located in Boston)</p>
<p>Safety
Syracuse (Ranked 49 and is 3 hrs from NYC)
St. Joseph’s University (Ranked 57 and is in Philly - very much a safety in my opinion)
University of Maryland College Park (ranked 35 and is 4 hours from NYC and close to DC - really a match or target not a safety)</p>
<p>Instead the advice is “aim higher.” For schools like GW (ranked 65 and is the 3rd best business school in DC - American (28th) and Georgetown (24th) are better). Or Tulane, a southern school (i.e. a long way from wall street) with a business school that is not even ranked in the top 100). </p>
<p>You guys may want to defend Tulane but it is obvious that you are biased. A person interested in business that lives in the NE would be stupid to go to Tulane unless it was as a last resort.</p>
<p>NYUdude: Look into Rutgers. Lehigh may be worth looking at too.</p>
<p>Educate yourselves Tulane boosters: [Best</a> of B-Schools](<a href=“Businessweek - Bloomberg”>Businessweek - Bloomberg)</p>
<p>NYU Dude: Also consider the return on the investment. Here is a ranking: <a href=“http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_12/b4026072.htm[/url]”>Businessweek - Bloomberg;
<p>Tomin VT - you are the one that needs educating. First of all, your link is for MBA programs, lol. Second, nowhere does the OP say he is ONLY interested in business schools, just that Stern is one choice. Third, I would not say UMd is a “short drive” from NYC. Fourth, any undergraduate education is about a lot more than learning a trade, at least for most people. Maybe it is just trade school to you.</p>
<p>Lots of schools send lots of e-mail and snail mail. Wash U in St. Louis is USNWR ranked 12th and is famous for tons of solicitations, and they are not the only ones. Tulane made a business decision (you should understand the concept unless your business school is failing you) to make the application free back in 2002 or 2003. Apparently it was a smart move because in the intervening 7 years the average currently entering Tulane student has an approximately 120 point higher average SAT score than their counterpart from before the marketing campaign. That is especially remarkable given the occurance of Katrina in the middle of that time frame. Maybe your business school teaches something different, but when I got my MBA they kind of encouraged successful business plans.</p>
<p>Finally, here are some links for the Tulane program that might interest you:</p>
<p>Tulane’s Finance Dept. ranked in Top 10 in World
[Tulane</a> University - Financial Times Names Tulane University Among World’s Top 10 Schools for Finance](<a href=“http://tulane.edu/news/releases/012808.cfm]Tulane”>http://tulane.edu/news/releases/012808.cfm)</p>
<p>Tulane’s Equity Research Program
[Equity</a> Research @ Tulane](<a href=“http://www.freeman.tulane.edu/burkenroad/whatis.php]Equity”>About Burkenroad Reports - Freeman School | Tulane)</p>
<p>Tulane’s Darwin Fenner Program
[Darwin</a> Fenner Program@ Tulane](<a href=“http://www.freeman.tulane.edu/fenner/]Darwin”>http://www.freeman.tulane.edu/fenner/)</p>
<p>I am not saying Tulane is the right place for the OP compared to other places he might be considering. I am also not saying that these other schools don’t provide fine educations. But I am saying there is a lot more to picking a school than how it is “ranked” in one department. Over 70% of students change their major at least once. I am also saying you should do some research and know what you are talking about before you spout off and use terms like “desperate”. Given the high ranking Tulane has overall (and if you go strictly by academic quality based on test scores Tulane would rank #30, misperceptions about New Orleans and post-Katrina Tulane drag down the USNWR ranking, which is still pretty high), the remarkable rise in student quality over the last few years, the recognition from Carnegie Foundation, Time Magazine, Barrons, Forbes and many other sources, not to mention the fact that now 75% of those that apply get turned away, it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about.</p>
<p>It’s free to apply to Tulane. I wonder why…</p>
<p>As the saying goes, “you get what you pay for.”</p>
<p>Listen, as someone who’s worked in finance for the better part of a decade I can tell you that studying finance at Tulane looks very very good. If you don’t know the reputation that the department has nationally as well as abroad, then you aren’t very familiar with finance. It’s as simple as that. </p>
<p>Here’s a CNBC story they did about Tulane’s prowess in the trading community.<br>
Energy Trading Video from CNBC:
[Video</a> - CNBC.com](<a href=“http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=615836031&play=1]Video”>http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=615836031&play=1)</p>
<p>Here’s the link to Tulane’s coverage in Financial Times.
Tulane’s Finance Dept. ranked in Top 10 in World:
[FT.com</a> / UK - A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN: THE TOP TEN SCHOOLS IN SELECTED CATEGORIES](<a href=“A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN: THE TOP TEN SCHOOLS IN SELECTED CATEGORIES”>A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN: THE TOP TEN SCHOOLS IN SELECTED CATEGORIES)</p>
<p>In addition to its top 10 (worldwide ,no less) finance department ranking from Financial Times, it was ranked 4th best in entrepreneur studies recently.<br>
[Top</a> 25 Graduate Entrepreneurial Colleges for 2009 - Entrepreneur.com](<a href=“Top colleges and business schools for entrepreneurs.”>Top colleges and business schools for entrepreneurs.)</p>
<p>Why does Tulane advertise? Well, the fact that a school from Louisiana with only 11,000 (undergrad+grad) students is able to attract students with the same stats as USC, UVA, NYU says something about the power of marketing. You say Tulane has an unranked business school. Well, Tulane has a WORLDWIDE top 10 ranking from the most prominent European publication for finance. Financial Times is THE largest competitor of the Wall Street Journal and is a year older as well. If you want to work in finance, I’d say considering the source of the ranking, Tulane is a good choice. I’d never argue Tulane over NYU for obvious reasons, but that’s the rare exception. Am I biased? Yes. Do I know what I’m talking about though? Yes as well. </p>
<p>While I absolutely agree, being close to NY is a huge advantage, it’s crazy to rule out great schools simply because they are far away. Believe it or not, it’s a long drive to Stanford, Thunderbird, Ross, Kelley, and many other top programs as well. </p>
<p>Considering the price tag of tuition to actually ATTEND Tulane. You DO get what you pay for, a great education. Best of luck to you all.</p>
<p>School: NYU (Tulane)
Public / Private: Private (Private)<br>
Carnegie Classification: Research I (Research I)
City: New York (New Orleans)
State: NY (LA)
Campus Setting: Urban (Urban)</p>
<h1>Undergrad Applications Received: 37,245 (34,121)</h1>
<h1>Undergrad Applications Accepted: 11,995 (9,207)</h1>
<p>Average ACT: 29 (29)
Average SAT: 1345 (1340)
In-State Undergrad Tuition:$35,230 ($35,500)
Out of State Undergrad Tuition:$35,230 ($35,500)
Additional Undergrad Fees:$1,800 ($2,596)
Books:$800 ($1200)
Per Undergrad Credit Hour Fee:$1038 ($1,479)
Flat Undergrad Fee:$2,142 ($3,164)
%FT / %PT: 93%/7% (78%/22%)</p>
<h1>Male / #Female: 8,184/13,085 (3,065/3,627)</h1>
<p>%Minority 25% (19%)</p>
<h1>Associates Degrees Offered: 13 (9)</h1>
<h1>Bachelors Degrees Offered: 165 (80)</h1>
<p>I included this as an aside to compare the two schools. Both are for the 2008 entering class as all the data for this fall isn’t readily available. It shows Tulane keeping pace with NYU overall. Happy Holidays!</p>
<p>There was no application fee for New York City NYU applicants in 2008. That may still be the case, perhaps not. So why again does it imply a diminished value for a school if it chooses to market itself in this manner? </p>
<p>I doubt Tulane will keep the free app for much longer itself. TU started it right before Katrina and just continued it since the storm to help its recovery. I don’t buy the cheapening of a reputation because a school tries to make ONE aspect of the college selection process pain free, easy, and cheap. </p>
<p>On a personal note, I hate insomnia.</p>
<p>Look, I am not trying to turn this into a bashing thread. The guy asked about his list and some of the advice was out of left field. Some people on here just want to push their school regardless of the question. In my opinion Tulane would be a poor choice. You can give me all the european ratings you want. The simple fact is that Business Week (the leading source of rankings for American Business schools) says NYU is No. 15 and Tulane is not in the Top 100. It makes no sense for a NYC kid to leave New York with all of its recruiting benefits and better business schools to attend an unranked school half way across the country. Suggesting Tulane defies logic. Do you really think goldman sachs, etc. is recruiting as much from Tulane as NYU, Fordham, Villanova, Boston College, etc.? Can you commute to a NYC internship from Louisiana? </p>
<p>It is one thing to love your school but it is annoying to see people always recommend their alma mater regardless of the situation. The guy asked for advice, not for a bunch of puffing about a school that he isn’t even interested in.</p>
<p>According to Businessweek (the gold standard in your opinion):
The top internship recruiters at Tulane business 2007-2008 were
Merrill Lynch
*Goldman Sachs Group
Morgan Stanley
Deloitte Touche Tomatsu
Ernst & Young
JPMorgan Chase & Co.
PricewaterhouseCoopers </p>
<p>So yet again you’re misinformed. </p>
<p>Again, I’m not suggesting that you are bashing the school per se, but I think you are just ill-informed. I’m not pushing Tulane either, just correcting what was stated about the school and the reputation in the field. Also, the ranking I mentioned was for FINANCE which addresses the issue of reputation on Wall Street (where i work i might add.) I never said a kid should leave New York to pursue a degree in business. However, since schools well outside of New York were mentioned, then Tulane was brought up and then derided, I decided to correct the ill-informed. I don’t always recommend my alma mater, but I DO correct people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about when they address the school. I wasn’t the one who recommended or even brought up the school. I only chimed in AFTER it was incorrectly ‘attacked.’ </p>
<p>For the record, Tulane isn’t ranked in Businessweek because they didn’t respond to survey, not because they were somehow a worse school for business than 100 other schools. Did you really think it had a worse business school than LSU who placed at 88?</p>
<p>From BusinessWeek:
“How is the response rate calculated for schools that choose the “opt-in” method? BusinessWeek divides the number of responses by the number of students who received the “opt-in” e-mail. If 1,000 students receive the message and 500 opt in, 250 survey responses would give that school a response rate of 25%, not 50%. Schools with response rates that fall below the minimum will not be ranked.”</p>