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The boarding program hosts 48 students in the Upper School who live on campus five days a week. </p>
<p>and the upper school has 470 students, so it’s basically a day school.*</p>
<p>So, is it better classified as a Boston area day school? I think St. Alban’s down in DC is similar with a relatively small boarding population. </p>
<p>At some point I’d like to add day schools for other large cities (probably with their own page), but I only have so much time in a day.</p>
<p>prepreview counts both Noble and St. Alban’s as boarding schools. That’s where I heard of them. It looks like the school is self-idenfied as a day school in boston area?</p>
<p>Just an update that there are now as many boarding schools listed as NYC day schools (and will be more very soon). I had started with the NYC day schools primarily for reasons of self-interest. I continue to update with one or two schools nearly every day and am still taking requests (as long as data is available for the requested school).</p>
<p>[Matriculation</a> Stats](<a href=“http://www.matriculationstats.org%5DMatriculation”>http://www.matriculationstats.org)</p>
<p>This interesting article [Why</a> Kindergarten-Admission Tests Are Worthless – New York Magazine](<a href=“http://nymag.com/news/features/63427/]Why”>Why Kindergarten-Admission Tests Are Worthless -- New York Magazine - Nymag) about intelligence testing of children for kindergarten appears in this weeks New York Magazine. In presenting some of her points, the author cites variious college matriculation statistics of several NYC private and one public high school. All of her the statisics she cites agree with my analyses. Whew!</p>
<p>One more explanation why those top NYC day schools are so strong - getting competitive at the age of 4! :)</p>
<p>Wow! That’s insane (the 4 year old test prep). It makes me think that my kids don’t stand a chance! All I ever did was leave things out for them to “stubble upon.” </p>
<p>But something tells me these 4 year olds have YEARS of therapy ahead of them.</p>
<p>Yeah, I do realize that that statement may offend. Sorry. It just seems so crazy to me. Then again, I don’t live in NYC so I guess I shouldn’t judge.</p>
<p>Well, our sons didn’t need to take a test to get into the school they are currently at. They don’t test like that for Nursery school. The only “testing” they did with the kids was to put them in a classroom with toys for 15-20 minutes and watch what they did, basically just to make sure they did normal-type stuff. We did have our older son take the test for Hunter at age 4 and he scored reasonably well but nowhere near well enough to get in. The next time he took the ERB’s was in 3rd grade (when it looked more like a normal test), he scored at the levels any parent would be proud of.</p>
<p>Please remember two important things when you read articles like this. One, it’s only a very small minority of parents that come close to behaving in such ways. Two, exaggerating extreme behavior even more extremely is what sells magazines, newspapers, etc.</p>
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<p>true, true.</p>
<p>L’ville has analyzed the matriculation data for most of the boarding schools often mentioned here, except the ones that don’t have data posted on their website that facilitates his analysis. One thing I have noticed is the consistency of the relative positions of a school in all categories, meaning that a school ranked high on “strong schools” matriculation is likely to be similarly ranked in “top schools” or even “ivies”. To me, that indicates that the quality of the entering class is the determining factor in colleg matriculation results, and that the college community knows these schools well. Another observation is that in some “lower tiered” schools, HYPSM matriculation is rare. It probably does indicate that fewer “hooked” students go to those schools but at the same time, I don’t see how “unhooked” students can take big advantage there either.</p>
<p>In this analysis, students of the bottom 20%-30% of the top schools and the “bottom” 50%-60% of the lower tied schools are not represented. I suggest that L’ville at some point expand his analysis to have a “solid schools” category to give us a better idea what colleges those students go to.</p>
<p>I’ve continued to add more and more statistics for boarding schools.</p>
<p>In addition, as of today I’ve added a new section, “Day Schools Outside NYC”. Not sure how many people around here are interested in that type of school, but it seemed worthwhile to point out anyway. That section will gradually expand also.</p>
<p>[Matriculation</a> Stats](<a href=“http://www.matriculationstats.org%5DMatriculation”>http://www.matriculationstats.org)</p>
<p>Benley:</p>
<p>Your observation about the consistency of results, year in and year out, is quite interesting. I am left to wonder how these small schools (Chapin, Spence, Bearley, etc) sort out the top 5-10 students each year? They must all be applying to HYP each year. Do any parents out there, who have been through the process, have any insight? It must be a delicate process to manage.</p>
<p>Lville: Thanks for all the great data!</p>
<p>The dean of admissions from Columbia recently spoke at a college counseling seminar at my son’s school. He regaled us with many tales, several involving the uber-competitive NY City Day Schools. He shared one story in which the parents assailed a counselor late in the evening with a pressing question on matriculation stats. It was very important for them to know just how many HYP’s there were from this school as they were in the process of researching schools for their child. The counselor asked them how old their child was and, well, like all parents who are truly grooming their offspring for success, they answered that they weren’t even pregnant yet. Absurd.</p>
<p>The sad part is, and according to the speaker, that they are obliged to turn away students with low test scores simply because their bond rate is based on, among other things, their admitted SAT average. Of course, he went on to say, Columbia is considered a “safety school” amongst these folks anyway, so they don’t waste time worrying about it. </p>
<p>I do try to see things through the eyes of others, but I find this difficult to imagine and I am certainly grateful to not have been born into such a culture.</p>
<p>keylme, that is so depressing.</p>
<p>NYC day schools are crazy! 
But I bet those students who do make their ways to HYP are highly qualified. After all, they have worked toward that goal for their whole young life, with STRONG suppor from parents and the school!</p>
<p>My new line of baby SAT vocab recordings will be coming out soon, with extra large headphones to fit around the pregnant belly. And remember parents, use big words when you’re pregnant. The baby can hear you.</p>
<p>Sheesh! I’m glad I wasn’t born into that culture either. The best thing my parents did for me was let me be who I was. I mean, they just let me unfold however I was meant to unfold - wrinkles and all. That was the biggest “advantage” they gave me. I suppose that makes me “ill-groomed” for success.</p>