<p>I don't want to take the new SAT I,
I may sound too iterative, but anyone please suggest some really good UG business schools that will accept the old (i.e. current) SAT I scores and could award me a FULL TUITION WAIVER considering my PROFILE (that's post 1, page 1)</p>
<p>Thanks, Thanks, Thanks</p>
<p>Anthony, I never stated that Penn is a bad school. It's an amazing school and was top on my list until I took cost and SAT's into consideration. Anyway, going to a top elite school is all fine and dandy if you have the money and stats, but it's what you do with your education that sets you aside from others.</p>
<p>I think what you intend to major in also plays a great factor as well.</p>
<p>What are my chances with a FULL TUITION WAIVER at all UCs and USC ? (My priority state is California because of the favourable Indian like climate)</p>
<p>Wow! This thread was slowly dying on page 13 on CC in barely 9 days since last post, thought I'd better revive it !</p>
<p>UC's dont give scholarships to intls. USC does.</p>
<p>Your EC's are weak, I got this info from another thread:</p>
<p>UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA - EC SCORING GUIDELINES</p>
<p>LEADERSHIP PROMISE:</p>
<p>Leadership promise is measured by an applicant's involvement in extracurricular activities at their school, community or home. Three or more are required.
Points: Three or more leadership roles that demonstrate one's capacity to direct or influence the course of an activity/organization or the action of others -- in activities at school, in the community or at home. Must show consistent participation (i.e., A school year or sport season) or some indication of achievement. Examples:
- Chief or section editor of school newspaper or yearbook
- Team captain
- Section leader in the school band, drum major, conductor
- Director, stage manager or choreographer of a school play
- Student body or class officer
- President or vice president of team/club or volunteer organization
- Representative to the school board, city council or area representative for a community organization
- Mock trial officer or delegate to a regional or larger conference
- Girls/boys state or national delegate
- Model UN head delegate or junior statesman delegate to regional or higher level conference; undersecretary or general secretary
- Leadership role in Girl/Boys Scouts, Sea Scout, Quarter Master
- Life Scout/Silver Award, Eagle Scout/Gold Award (received or in progress)
- 4-H Diamond Star or All-star; 4-H Teen Leader, national conference team member; state ambassador
- Link crew team leader
- Peer trainer or mediator
- Lead person in a major activity, such as a fund-raising drive, cultural activity or tutoring program
- Youth educator in community activities such as Sunday school teacher or coach
- Participation in highly selective leadership program
- Parental role at home as primary care giver or major wage earner
No points
- Member of club, organization or sport team
- Lower officer of non-selective club
- Volunteer for community organization
- Tutor
- Junior Statesman participant
- Future Business Leaders of America
- Model UN participant
- Teaching assistant
- Habitat for Humanity volunteer
- School Accreditation Review Team
- Link Crew member
- Mexicali Missions project volunteer
- 4-H star ranks bronze-gold
- Umpire, referee or lifeguard (unless description in personal statement satisfies leadership definition)</p>
<p>SPECIAL TALENTS AND SKILLS:
A special talent or skill involves substantial participation or exceptional performance in the arts, sciences, languages, athletics, etc. that demonstrates hard work and accomplishment.
Points: Persistent involvement in two activities for 3 years each, resulting in distinguished recognition at the school or higher level or representing outstanding effort and dedication in the community; or long-term involvement in one activity resulting in recognition at the state level or the right to compete at the national level. Examples:
- Debate tournament winner
- Speech or essay contest winner (Forensic awards)
- Dance/music award winner
- Lead in school play
- 1st chair in school band/orchestra or beyond
- Sports -- All league 1st team, athlete of the year, league MVP; state or national
- State or national level championship team
- Academic Decathlon winner
- National Merit semifinalist or finalist
- 4-H Emerald Star; Presentation Day winner in regional or state competition
- FFA champion or reserve champion award
- FFA regional, state or national proficiency awards
- Model UN best delegate
- Mock trial individual award at regional level; team award at state level
- Participation in a highly selective program such as the National Science Foundation Young Scholar's Program, COSMOS, etc.
- Extended involvement or experience in another culture or one's own culture, representing outstanding effort and enabling the student to contribute knowledge to the educational experience. Examples: Proficiency in a language other than English that is used to serve the community or study in non-English speaking communities or countries where the student plans to work. Proficiency in traditional cultural skills and talents.
- Year-round employment or volunteer work of 12+ hours per week where work is skilled and demonstrates responsibility such as writing articles for newspaper, computer programming, Web design, etc.</p>
<p>No points: Continuous involvement in activities but no distinguished recognition is received.
- Continuous long-term music lessons
- Awards for Golden State Academic Exams
- Who's Who
- CSF
- Presidential award for academic and physical fitness
- National Merit commended or scholar
- Model UN commended performance
- Honorable mention awards
- Participation in non-selective summer programs
- Academic decathlon participant
- Recognition for good performance
- Honor roll
- School most valuable player
- Most improved player
- Coach's award
- Varsity letter(s)
- Congressional award
- Member of a championship team unless at state or higher level
- Pages for state or national senate or assembly</p>
<p>PERSONAL DIFFICULTIES & PERSEVERANCE:
This is based on a reading of the personal statement for documentation of the applicant's ability to persist and overcome unusual, seemingly insurmountable difficulties or challenges which may have affected the applicant's ability to achieve full academic potential during middle or high school.
Points
We strongly consider factors over which the student has little or no control and which are inevitably linked to the student's academic achievement. Difficulties and challenges usually involve multiple factors, such as:
- A history of low income
- Adverse home environment
- Unusual family disruption
- Drug, physical and mental abuse
- Unusual medical/emotional problems
- Frequent change of schools (3 or more high schools)
- Lack of exposure to appropriate role models
- Adverse immigration experience within the past five years
- English as a second language
- Assumption of role as primary caretaker of the family
- Unusual disruption in school, residential or tribal community (e.g., long-term school strikes, widespread natural disasters, etc.)
- Active discouragement or severe lack of support from family or school personnel
No points
Isolated events of short duration that have little or no effect on the student's academic development, such as:
- Short-term illness such as a broken leg, flu
- Short-term adverse incidents (e.g., short-term closure of school due to inclement weather, short-term absences from school to care for a family member, etc.)
Situations or circumstances that the student is capable of changing but did not do so.
- Unfocused student
- Dislike of school and teachers
- Elective trips and vacations during the school year
- Elective employment
- Elective community, social, recreational and other extracurricular activities.</p>
<p>MARKED IMPROVEMENT:
Academic record from 9th to 11th grades shows marked improvement in grades or significant shift in academic rigor.
Points
- From having mostly C's or less to B's and A's
- From having mostly C's and B's to almost all A's
- A shift from non-college preparatory course work to college preparatory
- A shift from only college prep to almost all advanced courses such as advanced placement & transferable college courses with B's and A's
No Points
- No change in course work rigor, including shift from college prep to regular honors courses
- No improvement in grades received
- From having mostly C's and B's to almost all B's
- From having mostly A's and B's to almost all A's</p>
<p>I'll try to improve my ECs, there's much time now - will be applying for fall 2006 batch</p>
<p>really Akshay....im from india too.....i think u should have given the NEW SAT since it will be applicable in your year of entry</p>
<p>Ya, but now with a perfect score (1600) in the old sat already, I'd prefer to apply to only those TOP colls that accept the old one too (and there are many)</p>
<p>Check out this Adobe PDF doc (Found from GOOOOOOOOGLE)</p>
<p>"Dartmouth, Brown, Colombia, U Penn...</p>
<p>I wouldn't go to 'em... Kinda mediocre Ivies in my opinion and not worth all the hassle/sacrifice."</p>
<p>That's shows how stupid you are :) An Ivy-League is worth gold....99.99% of the people on earth can't even dream about getting into an ivy.</p>
<p>Golubb,
Only 2 ivies [uPenn (Wharton) & Cornell] offer UG Business,
Hence, these days, I'm really considering majoring in ECONOMICS instead, since MORE colls offer this major.</p>
<p>I've shortlisted 10 UNDERGRAD BUSINESS PROGS for myself and would like to have advice and suggestions on it.</p>
<p>It's here - <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=308480&posted=1#post308480%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=308480&posted=1#post308480</a></p>
<p>SATs WILL help you out....colleges look at them ALOT....EXCEPT...Ivy Leagues. Getting in to an Ivy League is like getting in to Medschool...you usually have an interview...you CAN'T be a robot or whatever. They have to know that you're smart AND that you have a life.</p>
<p>Cornell just recently started an undergraduate business program called AEM..it was just accredited..and was ranked 14th in country first year out and will probably be in top 10 this year...Cornell has more i bankers on wall street than any other school besides wharton..and thats a fact</p>
<p>I think that you should apply to the ivy-league and other top-tier institutions. However, if you are a junior, are you going to take the new-sat because I believe that it is required for your class? But, I may be wrong.</p>
<p>its not required for a lot of schools - many will let next year's senior submit the old SAT because many have already taken it. however, the class of 2007 and beyond must take the new SAT, i believe.</p>
<p>The UC's require the new SAT. Many, many other schools will as well. The College Board has a complete list somewhere on its site of schools that say they will require the new SAT for next year's applicants.</p>
<p>Wait, you got your 1600 with an 800 in math and (<--italics) verbal? Now that's impressive.</p>
<p>Let's put one misconception to bed however. Anyone who thinks that the SAT is a test of guessing ability shows in spades why they got what they did on the SAT. The odds of getting a perfect score on the SAT by guessing are 1 in 286985925500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.</p>
<p>"The odds of getting a perfect score on the SAT by guessing are 1 in 28698592550000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000."</p>
<p>.....yeah, thats true....if you know absolutely nothing and have to guess with not even a hunch on every single question....i think your chances are a little better than that.....and when people say you can get a 1600 by being lucky, they mean getting a 1600 instead of 1550, not 1100 or something. everyone knows that someone who got a 1600 is not retarded, but they also know that you cant assume they are any smarter than someone who got a 1550 because they knew the same # of answers as the person who got a 1600 and guessed on the same # of questions and just guessed poorly.
and there is no such thing as "guessing ability." once you have even a slight hunch, its not a guess anymore.</p>