College options for CS or similar majors around Michigan

@aHappyGreenTree

Would you please confirm whether or not you are considered an in-state resident by Michigan public schools? You mentioned you are an immigrant… what is your status?

My son and dil are Michigan Tech graduates. Great school, very collaborative atmosphere. Great placement department. I highly recommend.
Houghton is not expensive to live there either :joy:

Michigan Tech prepares a lot of kids to be working employed adults. In many STEM degrees

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@Knowsstuff @DadOfJerseyGirl @DramaMama2021
Sorry for the confusion! I’m not an international student. I’m a permanent resident in the United States. I’ve been here for 3 years now. I started studying in the US from my freshman year of High School.
(Sidenote: I’m a rising senior, but I’m already 19. The reason is, I couldn’t transfer credits from my old school in my home country. So I had to start from freshman year in high school here. Will that affect my admission into colleges in any way?)

And yeah, 1300 probably won’t get me into UMich. So would it do more harm than good if I don’t get better scores in future tests and decide to send in my 1300?

yeah call or email umich admisisons to make sure that you’re considered in state. being oos vs. international won’t do you any good.

1300 is below 25th for umich, which is 1400, so don’t submit that.

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My niece and nephew were admitted to UMich both with ACT 28. In state from a low performing school with high GPA. Not into engineering or CS but whatever Michigan calls their arts and sciences.

So for some in state students, they can be admitted with lower scores.

I would advise OP to take the ACT also. Both of my kids did significantly better on the ACT.

But personally I think there are great Michigan schools other than university of Michigan where the OP could be very successful.

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A more efficient way to learn this is to take the SAT/ACT diagnostic. If the ACT isn’t markedly better for the student, then they don’t waste any time prepping for it and don’t miss an SAT cycle.

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Yeah, I took an ACT test just to see how I do… The timing is a big problem for me with ACT although the questions are generally easier than SAT. Didn’t study for it after that.

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I don’t mean to be “Johnny Correction” here but according to the 2021-2022 CDS, Michigan’s 25% for the SAT is 1,360.

They sure do admit applicants with lower test scores, especially since GPA is considered “most important” in the CDS and the test scores “important,” but the %’s aren’t in your favor.

And now for 2023-2024, the CS major, whether in LSA or CoE (same department) has become a more difficult admittance, because Michigan has began to “ration” or limit admittance to this major.

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https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/first-year-student-profile

this is where i got my data from

For my money, I’d rely on the CDS, since it’s a standardized set of admissions data, which many colleges produce. YMMV.

In fact, I believe Columbia fudged their CDS #'s and that eventually led to USNWR de-listing it from its rankings just recently.

If you live in Michigan then don’t forget Michigan State. Great program there and you would get accepted generally then you can apply to your major. But with both Michigan and State hitting your financial mark might be hard. Michigan state look at the honors program since it can mean much less money instate. Wayne gives a decent amount of money also and it’s the newer cooler school now since kids want to be downtown. Apply to Michigan just to see but not sure if you need to send in scores this year yet.

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Michigan State gave me full tuition covered with an EFC of $1754. Valparaiso would not be affordable. U of M meets full need for in state students, including me.

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Is it the same for Computer Engineering too?

According to the link above, the restriction is only for CS and no other major in LSA or CoE, to the best of my knowledge.

The link above answers a whole host of questions, so if you have the time, take a look.

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In case anyone missed it when perusing the link above, the new CS restrictions means that most of the CS slots will be for students applying to U of M for their CS program. They will be reserving a certain number of spots for “Discoverers” who develop an interest in CS while in college, and those people can apply for a spot. Students who applied to U of M and did not receive the CS major but then enroll at Michigan as a different potential major will not be allowed to apply for CS as a discoverer.

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I think the additional point one could likely take from that is that getting a CS slot as a Discoverer will be about as likely as getting a CS spot at UIUC or UW if a student isn’t directly admitted. It will be very selective and not guaranteed.

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I wonder how long it will be before Computer Engineering and Data Science end up going through this process (as currently the suggested changes are for Computer Science only).

And speaking of Michigan and bringing this back to OP, what about UM-Dearborn? According to its facts & figures page (source) it has the lowest average annual costs among Michigan’s 15 publics and the 2nd lowest amount of student debt. The average class size is 25 and 46% of the student body is first generation (and 42% are Pell-eligible) which means that the university probably also has a lot of supports for its students. There is a Computer and Information Science major with concentrations in CS, Information Systems, or Game Design. There are also majors in Data Science, Computer Engineering, and Cybersecurity and Information Assurance. I definitely think that UM-Dearborn is worth a look.

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And similar to the difficulty of being admitted to the Ross BBA program as a cross-campus transfer.

Ross also reserves a limited amount of slots for current Michigan students who desire to transfer into Ross, but prioritizes transfer applicants who haven’t previously been denied admission to Ross as a HS senior.

Thank you! I will definitely take a look :+1:t3:

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Data science through the school of information at Michigan doesn’t seem to be impacted… Yet but you apply as a junior but should have strong interest prior.