<p>No, I am trying to make sense of this thread.</p>
<p>“Are we, as humans, undeserving of second chances?”</p>
<p>What makes you think you have no chance? You still do. Remember, you’re still a HS student, and even though you didn’t try hard 4 years, your still, what, 17, 18? You still have time to make amends</p>
<p>I meant “I have learned to not be bitter with my life.” </p>
<p>Yes, too little people in America see the worst than you. Not everyone can go to Harvard. Not everyone can have a 4.0 or even good grades. Not everyone can EVEN get a 3.0. So what? If you are really smart, take SUNY Baruch as a new stage in life and redeeem yourself. If you don’t, then you can just be like “this SUNY schools i for dumb people. I can’t be here.” You can’t make up for your mistakes in high school, so take whatever you have and use that to redeem yourself, even if it is SUNY Baruch.</p>
<p>Did you know you have like 60 years left of your life? You can still be successful.</p>
<p>“We can’t change the cards we’re dealt, just how we play the hand.”
-Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture</p>
<p>And it’s my contention that it’s never too late to re-examine how you want to play the hand. You seem to consent that you may have made some poor decisions. Hopefully you learned from them and endeavor to find your passion and then relentlessly pursue that passion while doing everything you can in the meantime.</p>
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<p>Do I? In what ways?
Transfering? They would still look at my HS transcript. No amount of time or level of subsequent performance is a sufficiently strong mitigating agent. <---- That is the point of this thread.</p>
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<p>And how has that made it better? Even if you are complacent of your circumstances, that doesn’t make them better in any way, does it?</p>
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<p>I still fail to see how the plight of others dampens my own. I may be better off in comparison, but that doesn’t change anything.</p>
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<p>I never said CUNY Baruch was for dumb people. No, I can’t make up for my mistakes made during high school. I can’t them up in Baruch either, at least not all the way.</p>
<p>True, I have a good 60 years ahead of me. But the nature of those 60 years hinges soooooooooooooo much on college, and if that’s already a given, then where you’re going. Prove me wrong.</p>
<p>Transferring in New York requires HS transcript? In California they dont… Maybe its different in NY. Either way, if you shape up in cc, colleges WILL look at your improvement in a positive way. Imporvement IS a strong migitating point. while you may not get into the best school like some posters said, your education is what you make of it. THAT is your second chance.</p>
<p><em>EDIT</em> If you get accepted to a 4 year college though, look at it in a positive way, not like you were “relegated” there.</p>
<p>Go to the school you were accepted to. Do exceptionally well. Graduate. Get a job or apply to grad school.</p>
<p>By then, no one will care about your HS grades.</p>
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<p>I really doubt it varies by state. Almost all 4 year colleges require HS transcripts for transfer admissions.</p>
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<p>I would think Harvard Business holds its own undergraduate system to a higher esteem than it does Baruch.</p>
<p>My dreams may be too big. But there’s no such thing as a small dream. It’s either big or not at all.</p>
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<p>It does. It also has students that were not raised on that stuff.</p>
<p>Didn’t read the whole thing (yet), but how can someone go to Stuyvesant and not “hear of” the SAT until Junior year? I’d think schools like that have students that would be RAISED on that stuff!</p>
<p>You should check out the “parents of 3.0” thread.</p>
<p>I do think there is a “reset” or “restart” button. Pull yourself together, and do well at the college you were accepted to. You are only 17. </p>
<p>I think most people have turning points in their life where they have to make a new plan, pull themselves together and work hard on the new plan. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t had to do this. People make mistakes, or stuff happens to them, or whatever.</p>
<p>I think it is an important life skill to take a less-than-ideal situation and figure out your next move. And then of course to work hard at that next move.</p>
<p>You’re right, graduate programs are incredibly competitive. And harvard’s undergrad students are very well represented in their graduate programs. But it still can’t hurt to apply and there are tons of other awesome graduate schools. Plenty of exceptionally successfull people didn’t go to brand name colleges.</p>
<p>“My dreams may be too big. But there’s no such thing as a small dream. It’s either big or not at all.”</p>
<p>Is your dream going to a school like Harvard, or getting a good job, or having a successful career? Really, college isnt everything. My dad went to cal state fullerton, which isnt exactly the best school in the world, and now makes a six figure income as a Boeing Engineer. Effort also counts.</p>
<p>“Plenty of exceptionally successfull people didn’t go to brand name colleges.”</p>
<p>Agreed. </p>
<p>antonioray , you should stop feeling regret and move on. You still have chances, but the more you drag your feet, that door of opportunity will begin to close on you. Take what you have and make the most of it.</p>
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<p>No, but not going to a brand name college for undergrad can hurt me in the graduate admissions process.</p>
<p>See what I mean? That’s a perfect example of the problem I’m discussing. I’m not even out of HS yet and I’m already worrying about my graduate school plans. Would you as a collective say that it is healthy or unhealthy for an 8th or 9th grader to plan out their entire high school career, geared exclusively towards college admissions?</p>
<p>I rememeber a statistic that 30% of the richest whatever people in the world went to one of 20 colleges of the world. I’m no good at math, but considering how there’s probably at least a few thousand colleges in the world, a 30% representation from a half a percent? of a whole seems pretty staggering to me.</p>
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<p>It is a combination of all 3. Is it probable to have 2nd or the 3rd without the first?</p>
<p>“No, but not going to a brand name college for undergrad can hurt me in the graduate admissions process.”</p>
<p>It may hurt, but if you do well at your undergrad, you can still make it to some very nice grad schools.</p>
<p>“See what I mean? That’s a perfect example of the problem I’m discussing. I’m not even out of HS yet and I’m already worrying about my graduate school plans. Would you as a collective say that it is healthy or unhealty for an 8th or 9th grader to plan out their entire high school career, geared exclusively towards college admissions?”</p>
<p>Im sorry, this a world of competition. I agree that the stress may be excessive, but you just have to apply your best. Also, whats wrong with planning?</p>
<p>“It is a combination of all 3. Is it probable to have 2nd or the 3rd without the first?”
Yes.</p>
<p>hahahahah why would you use that statistic to support your point? that means 70% DID NOT go to those colleges.</p>
<p>I have a number of problems with the educational system (for an elaboration visit my facebook group “People Advocating for the Fair Treatment of Students”). However, because of my immense drive, the impetus for which is my considerable passion for The Walt Disney Company (again, another story for another day), I have submitted to the mundane existence of an average high school student. I am a relentless optimist, and have found it really helps deliver the motivation to excel iin things that may seem menial at times. That’s my five cents.</p>
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<p>The world is how it is. Do you need a big time college to say that your smart and intelligent? I have been rejected to 3 colleges I know I should have had more of chance of getting into those. Then there was one that i knew I had no chance after the after math all the people with high stats getting rejected. The same that has happened to you has happened to me. I plan to do really good in college and work hard to be a part of technology researching. Possibly transfer after 1 or 2 years. The truth is if you have money you can do what you want. Everyone should realize that when your a first generation student you have a tougher time in school. My parents had no idea what I was doing. In reality as long as you know you are smarter then people at those others schools and keep your moral up you will be known as the true top student later. Imagine how mad the other colleges would be if you found the cure of cancer and they once had a chance to accept you for example.</p>
<p>-Good luck, and this is coming from someone in the same situation as you. I got into University of Delaware, I have no money no assets. After 1 or 2 years in another college I’ll show what I am capable of. :)</p>
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<p>I used it because I find it incredible how 30% went to 20 while the other 70% went to 9980(made up number but could be pretty close).</p>
<p>Concentration. If the numbre in the statistic were the richest 1000, people, then it would be fair to assume that 25 of them went to Harvard. The rest of the colleges of the world (the 9980) have either one or none.</p>
<p>I mean, I’ve been snooping around the profession forums and they mentioned that the Supreme Court looks something like this:</p>
<p>Harvard Law School- 5
Yale Law: 3
Northwestern: 1</p>
<p>For undergrad:</p>
<p>Princeton and Stanford: 2 each
Everything else one, including:</p>
<p>Harvard, Chicago, Cornell, Holy Cross, Georgetown.</p>
<p>That’s incredible in its own right, don’t you think?</p>
<p>You didn’t mention you wanted to be a justice…</p>
<p>Seriously, though, people are obsessed with top schools. Not to say there’s no merit not to mention an incredibly commendable achievement in attending princeton or stanford. </p>
<p>However, I can tell you because of my intimate familiarity with Disney that Bob Iger, the current President & CEO, went to Ithaca College. Am I implying there is anything wrong with Ithaca? Of course not. But, its inarguably less revered than Harvard or Chicago.</p>
<p>Admission to college doesn’t define who you are, it doesn’t define your worth as a person. And you know that, because you’re smart. You’re smart in spite of having been rejected by top schools, not because you are LESS smart than the people who did get accepted, but because unlike them you chose not to play the game. And, the game isn’t for everyone. People have different paths to greatness and success or to failure in life. Which path you take, or how quickly you are able to evaluate your priorities (as in, pride vs. dreams), is of little significance. What matters is that you at some point realize the pace that satisfies your lifestyle and personal philosophies, and make adjustments accordingly.</p>
<p>My younger D is a (Macaulay) student at CUNY Brooklyn. She has a 3.87 average and was just accepted as a transfer student at Mt. Holyoke. She is awaiting transfer decisions from several other schools.</p>
<p>You can redeem yourself at Baruch. Prove yourself and your abilities and you can transfer after one year. And you will save money in the meantime.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>The way your talking makes me mad. Do you think you should have gotten into these schools over a student with a 95 average all 4 years. Same sat. Same ecs
You need to realize there are a lot of people out there with good stats and you seem to have an innate belief you are better then them. Its your fault for applying to a bunch of reach schools rather then match/safety school.</p>
<p>As for your family you aren’t the only one. I’ve dealt with an alcoholic mom and a verbally abusive dad plus more and instead of that hindering me I have made it my motivation to do well and get out of this house</p>