College Search for Performance Music Major

<p>Our son will be going off to college next year and perhaps his search for the right school and our process might have some value to you.</p>

<p>Early in the summer before his junior year of High school he had begun to voice a desire to study piano in college, perhaps in a conservatory. Although he had taken lessons since he was a toddler, it had all been with the same teacher. His teacher didn’t believe in recitals or competitions and was not a part of the mainstream classical music scene. None of us had an end goal in mind. He just loved music and playing and we left him to enjoy the process. </p>

<p>As we began to look into conservatories we learned of how systematic and driven some students are and how competitive the admission process is. </p>

<p>He formed a list of schools that included stand-alone conservatories like Juilliard, colleges with conservatories like Oberlin and colleges with strong music departments like University of Puget Sound. We read that the process should include visiting schools and perhaps to have a lesson to test out how you like the teacher. </p>

<p>So we began with a visit and a lesson and were told that he was musically gifted but had learned some bad habits and had several other technical issues to work out. The professor suggested changing teachers and that with a lot of work our son might have a chance at getting in a top-level music conservatory.</p>

<p>We returned home and our son had several test lessons and did decide to change teachers. He wanted to improve regardless of the college he attended and he engaged fully with the new teacher and increased his practice time. He adjusted his college list with the realization that he may or may not get accepted into a conservatory. </p>

<p>Key points -
Get outside assessment early in the process
Stay open to what develops over time and to ideas changing over what schools are right for them
Let your child drive the process
Encourage your child to look deeply at who they are and what they want and what they think would be best for them
Visit lots of schools and have lessons to get to know the teachers
Questions they should be asking themselves – What kind of learner am I? What size school would be best for me? What size music department would be best for me and would I be at the top or bottom or in between in terms of my musical abilities and how do I feel about that? How important is location of the school or weather? How important is the look and feel of the campus? How important is the academics outside of music? What type of academic structure do I like (such as progressive or traditional, lecture or discussion based)? What type of kids does this school attract (such as conservative, liberal, party types, sports kids, egg heads, Greeks, etc.) and how important is that?</p>

<p>We visited a lot of schools. After visits he eliminated Rice University and Conservatory, Whitman College, Willamette University, University of Colorado Boulder, Vassar, and Ithaca College. He visited and applied to University of Redlands, Lewis and Clark College, University of Puget Sound, Bard College and Conservatory, Lawrence University and Conservatory, Oberlin College and Conservatory, and Skidmore. He was accepted at all these schools and all the conservatories except Bard. He will attend Oberlin College and Conservatory in the five-year double degree program.</p>

<p>With the visits and research and self-reflection he determined he liked smaller to mid sized private schools with a campus setting. He also determined that he valued academics, as well as music, especially when progressive and discussion based. He wanted a general liberal arts education along with an intense musical experience. He wanted to make sure however that the academics were in balance so that they would allow enough time for great musical growth. He didn’t want a school dominated by sports or by Greek life.</p>

<p>More key points -
Keep notes on visits and on lessons with pros and cons and note anything that needs further research
Help your child with the research
Understand the audition requirements as soon as possible so repertoire can be learned in plenty of time
Apply to schools with a range of acceptance criteria that your child would be happy to attend. It doesn’t do you much good to have a safety school on your list that your child doesn’t want to attend.
Create a spreadsheet to stay on top of the application and audition process
Realize that the more attractive your child is to the school the higher the merit offer will be. This often means the most merit money will come from the schools lower on their list and less merit money will come from the schools they most want to attend.</p>

<p>Good luck and enjoy the ride.</p>

<p>Wow. I didn’t know you had to do all that. My student just looked for a college with a music program and academics that were in his range. We eliminated most conservatory programs from the get go due to their general lack of an academically diverse education and the fact that apparently their results (as defined by the likelyhood of getting a job that will support a family) are no better than the music programs at regular colleges.</p>

<p>Seriously, he had been on campus several times at a couple of the colleges he applied at, but never had an official campus visit anywhere. He just applied, auditioned, and then made a choice based upon weighing net cost, percieved prestige of the college, and a few other factors that we didn’t find out about until his audition or later.</p>

<p>My son ended up choosing the college that was origionally his second choice, although he was offered a nice scholarship at his earlier first choice and almost a full ride at his “safety” college. My only regret is that we didn’t shoot a little higher in the “prestige” category, but maybe that’s what grad school is for.</p>

<p>I’m not knocking all the hard work that goes into anyones college shopping. What a lot of you guy’s do is awsome and amazing. There’s no way that visiting 20 colleges or even applying and auditioning at 10 colleges would have fit into my family’s schedule or budget - he actually ended up doing his last audition by his lonesome. But hey, if you got the spare time and bucks, then go for it!</p>

<p>Just want to add that for many, and perhaps especially for musicians, a lot of change can happen in that last year of high school. Our daughter did not have the clarity of this poster’s son, and even during April, was still deciding between a conservatory and university. It was hard to predict best choices in December that would definitely be top choices in April, because so much development was happening. So she kind of covered a lot of different options with her applications by Dec. 1.</p>

<p>Also, let’s say, a rural conservatory might offer the best music program for the student’s interests, even if the student actually wanted a large university in the city. It isn’t always possible to line up all the characteristics that a student most wants.</p>

<p>And yes, money is a factor for many of us.</p>

<p>Our daughter applied to 2 colleges and 4 conservatories, which we did visit (but no lessons, not classes, no contact besides audition), and we drove through a few other campuses on the way, but didn’t stay.</p>

<p>There is a wide range of processes for families and students with all of this, that can work out. The suggestions made by the original poster will help a lot of people. People should also know that a simpler process can also have good results, if thoughtfully done.</p>

<p>p.s. congratulations to your son on going to a great school!</p>

<p>Well, it also depends on what instrument (or Voice) you are talking about.
If you are on a pre-screened instrument, there will be more time investment, for example-
One might need more apps out there-
It depends on studio openings - what if you determine early there is a studio teacher you admire but there are very few openings your year in that studio?? I encourage music performance applicants to explore options. It might not be simple to just waltz into a particular school/studio you like.
We also have experienced and seen others’ experiences in that aid offered varies a lot - one shouldn’t predetermine to fit in one place - one might need options or options can appear more attractive later in the process, perhaps by the time the applicant has had a chance to assess ensemble opportunities, that kind of thing
There are so many factors - I think starting with a broad list and visiting as many places as possible is worth it
Most of us will have some limitations - time, $, other but do as much as you can to end up with the best fit possible.
My personal suggestion, having a student who changed from being Music Performance to a highly academic major at a major university, is that if this is a possibility in your mind, if you have the slightest hesitation about the full conservatory experience…then be sure to attend a strong university with a strong SOM or do as OP’s student will do, get into a situation like Oberlin College and Oberlin Conservatory.</p>

<p>Pianofam, Congratulations on a great outcome, and thank you for sharing your process. It is clear that you are a very supportive family.</p>

<p>BassDad has a thread here called “So you want to be a music major” that outlines his daughter’s process (who, coincidentally, also ended up at Oberlin.) These personal accounts are very helpful to other parents. </p>

<p>I’m done with the process (and the tuition!) but have been through it with two different music kids. And emphasize the “different.” In both situations, we weren’t in the position to visit so many schools. With one, we were limited by money, and with the other, we were out of the country. But what you did physically, we did remotely. We spent a lot of time on the Internet. My S spent a lot of time networking via summer programs, and via his private teacher. We also started with a very long list, and culled it as we went along.</p>

<p>It is a unique process, unlike our eldest child, who went to school for a “traditional” academic field. Let me also take this opportunity to say the process continues like this well after graduation. You and your son will continually be evaluating and redefining goals and directions. You have positioned yourself well as a flexible and supportive parent. Enjoy the ride - it ain’t over.</p>

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And the results just as unpredictable as the college audition. For DD, 3 mezzos auditioned for same opportunities, all 3 just graduated, 2 with BMus, one with MM; one BMus and the MM from one studio, the other BMus from another. The 2 BMus were accepted and the MM was not. Who knows what they were looking for. You evaluate opportunities, cast a wide net, audition and go on whatever the results. Hard for me as Mom, who had a career built on a relatively predictable progression based on performance. But she has chosen this path.</p>

<p>Well, here’s how we did it (just for another side). My son applied to both stand-alone conservatories and university-based conservatories. </p>

<p>He didn’t visit any schools before his auditions (there just wasn’t time), had no “sample visit/lessons” anywhere (perhaps this is less of a factor for guitarists), and was accepted to all of his first choices. He was denied by his safety (we kind of “forced” him to audition there - I suspect his audition showed his lack of interest). </p>

<p>He suspected he wanted to be in a major city (preferably LA or NY) and his preference, going in, was a university BM program. This was confirmed during audition visits.</p>

<p>So that’s another way.</p>