https://files.nc.gov/dpi/documents/course_information/math-options-chart.pdf indicates that NC high school students aiming for UNC system schools may take discrete math, precalculus, or NC math 4 (which has substantial introductory statistics content, but is not only statistics).
Looks like the student does prefer a more conservative school.
Ask her about Campbell.
Gardner-Webb is worth looking into. It is Christian. I donāt know about aid. Admissions & Aid | Gardner-Webb University
Iām not sure she would like UNC-A. Itās kinda diametrically opposed to Bob Jones. Very non Christian vibes there although Iām sure there are some, but she would have to seek them out. It is small, though.
App State is going to be a reach and UNC-C may be as well. Has she thought about Western Carolina? I think that would be the UNC system school in the mountains to look at for her. They are a good deal with the NC Promise tuition program. She could also look at Brevard and Lees-McRae for mountain schools.
Wingate and Montreat seem like good picks if they are affordable.
She might check out schools like Pfeiffer (loosely Methodist), Catawba, St Andrews (loosely Presbyterian), Lenoir-Rhyne (loosely affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church)
AP Psych does not count for a Science, btw. She only needs 3 sciences to graduate High School, though, but they must be one Physical Science (like Physical Science or Physics or Chemistry), Biology (required), and one natural science (like Earth Environmental or AP Environmental Science). AP Psych is just an elective. High School Graduation Requirements | NC DPI
Math IV is a good course for her. They usually cover some personal finance stuff and Stats.
Thanks for those additional suggestions. I always forget about Brevard & Lenoir-Rhyne. Iāll also look into St. Andrews & Pfeiffer.
Good points about UNC-A. I had Cambell on my list but wasnāt sure if it would be affordable. Iāll also suggest Western.
I see this a lot with NC students who have similar stats recently. They (or their parents) want UNC-Charlotte/AppState/UNCW and donāt target UNCG/ECU, but their stats arenāt in line with this path. Realistically, a 3.2/ACT16 more than likely isnāt going to gain admission to Charlotte or App State.
Those stats are much more likely to get the student into UNCG or ECU. One of my sonās friends had a hsGPA in the 3.5-3.6 range and didnāt get into Charlotte or App State. He enrolled in UNCG as an Economics major, and has a 4.0 GPA after two years. Itās affordable, heās thriving there, and it has a good graduate school for his major.
Sheāll have a better chance with UNCA, but itās far from certain. Because of the financial constraints, hopefully, this student keeps UNCG and ECU on the list. Thereās no guarantee any of the private schools will provide enough FinAid, and itās likely Charlotte and App State will not admit.
I hear you and agree. I think ECU will be too big for her but will urge her to keep UNCG on the list.
Iām enjoying learning more about the some of the Carolina schools, as this is information that one canāt necessarily get from a bunch of facts and figures. That being said, however, I have limited personal knowledge myself so canāt contribute much here.
For the colleges that make it to her list of favorites, this is what the Colllege Board lists as percentage of need met (I couldnāt find the equivalent info on College Navigator by the feds, so take the CB info with a grain or handful of salt). And I realize that graduation rates are frequently more of a factor of the studentās economic situation than about the campus itself, but if a culture of students not completing might negatively affect your student, I wanted to add that piece of information as well (i.e. Montreat at 34% would be concerning for me).
Other suggestions mentioned:
āNeed metā is based on college-specific definitions of āneedā. Seems less likely to be something included in reporting to the government. What College Navigator does have is average net price for various income bands.
@AustenNut thank you so much for this information - very useful!
Yesterday was just my second meeting with her and we are easing into getting to know each other. As such, her college list is very much still in the working stages. Just to give some additional info - my student, and others who are in similarly under-resourced situations, are participants in a non-profit foundation that assists them with all aspects of getting to college (with additional support throughout their college experience). The foundation provides academic tutors, writing coaches, SAT/ACT prep, financial aid counselors, etc. They take them on college visits as well. Most students enter the program as rising 9th graders and receive support throughout high school.
Volunteers like me step in during summer of senior year (each of us getting assigned a specific student to work with) and make sure they are meeting deadlines and expectations relative to the Common App & eventually the FASFA/CSS. This foundation is well-supported by many Fortune 500 companies, local corporations and professional sports athletes. Itās most definitely a āvillageā and not just one person making college recommendations. Typically, by the time volunteers like me step in, the student has a working college list. My student did not (other than Bob Jones).
Historically, there are certain colleges and universities (mostly NC-based) to which this foundation sends many of these kids, and I am keeping those in mind with my suggestions. I am also concerned about some of the graduation rates of her ālikesā. When we meet next week, I hope to get some specifics out her about why she likes or doesnāt like a particular college and work through those.
Thanks again for everyoneās input!
I would discuss Community College as a financial safety for her. Sheās going to need to think of both financial safeties and academic safeties (I guess most of us do). Community College will be both and offer her a pathway to a 4 year degree at any UNC school and many private schools. I know Guilford has an articulation agreement with the Community Colleges for the credits to transfer. NC CCs have a grant right now that offers free tuition, the Longleaf Commitment, but I donāt know if that will be active in 2023. Just have to wait to see if they get more funding or if they run out of money I guess.
So I would have Community College as the safety net and then go ahead and have her apply to some of the schools she likes and see if they might be affordable with merit or aid. Has she run the calculator on schools like Campbell and Gardner-Webb and Catawba?
FWIW, I really liked UNC-G when we toured. It has a very college campus feel (more than I expected) and was really diverse. Itās also very artsy, which I liked, but they have a lot of practical majors like education and nursing too.
I do think Agnes Scott is worth a look or a deep dive on the website before she dismisses it. They give a lot of money out and have an extremely diverse student body. About 4 hrs from Charlotte, so not any further than a school in the eastern part of the state.
Catawba seems pretty diverse too, so might be worth a look for her.
Does the foundation you are working with provide any funding?
I will definitely revisit Agnes-Scott with her. She has toured UNC-G and Iām not sure what specifically she didnāt like. I also know a few UNC-G students who do very well there. Thatās another that I will continue to discuss with her.
The foundation has a few scholarships sponsored by donors that help bridge the gap between financial aid received and actual college costs. Additionally, Michael Jordanās āJordan Wingsā scholarship program awards a scholarship each year.
Meredith? If open to all women (I think). Also check North Greenville.
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