Colleges in BAD areas

<p>So no one mentioned Fordham. Maybe no one thought of it... but mostly I'm just hoping that the Bronx is truly a great family-friendly neighborhood and everyone knows it but me.</p>

<p>I haven't had any problems in the area around Fordham, though it feels unnerving to anyone used to parts of the city a bit more bustling by night. The subway is an unfortunate haul from campus but most students seem to take the much closer Metro North to Manhattan; there seems to be very little student life in the neighborhood around the university, save for a couple cheap pizza places and low-budget apartments directly adjacent to the campus and within sight of its security. The campus itself is quite fortified; you need to present your ID to a guard at every gate, and as a visitor I had to negotiate entrance.</p>

<p>I'm surprised no one has mentioned Yale. . .</p>

<p>About USC. I live right next to it and trust me, it IS ghetto and dangerous. Anyone who says otherwise clearly hasn't seen the area.</p>

<p>When I last investigated it thoroughlly a few years ago, New Haven was a little rough around the edges, perhaps even sleazy, but far from dangerous. Now I hear it's improved immensely. I felt much safer there even then than I ever did in West Philadelphia, the Bronx, or upper Manhattan.</p>

<p>How is the subway a haul away from Fordahm the D and B train are right there. Its right across the street.</p>

<p>I was born and have lived in the bronx my entire life, I love it here and could never picture myself living anwhere else, if it was needed it would have to be another big city. I hate suburban areas, for the fact that i feel alot safer in a city with blacks and Hispanics. The reason for this is that Blacks and Hispanics make up the majority of the bronx and not the majority of NYC in total but still a very big chunk. each around 25%.</p>

<p>I say this because white suburbans and white urbans are very different in nature. urban life is in general very different than suburban life. SWuburban whites tend to be in Denial about what goes on around them where urban whites tend to be very aware. Its the same for the majority of ethnicities.</p>

<p>You will never see a white urban student shoot up a school, not will you a Black, Hispanic or asian. Thogh you will always see a white suburban. The crimes commited by so called minorities are crimes that were commited due to there circumstances, these circumstances are not seen in suburban america and thus alot more likely to happen.</p>

<p>I live in a very poor area and there is crime, but crime is good because it toughens you up. To those coming to NYC dont worry or be scared.</p>

<p>NYC is 100% attitude and I mean 100%.</p>

<p>If you come to NYC scared you will be sought out as scared and then taken advantage of, you can easily see in NYC especially in Manhattan who is a tourist and who lives there, It is very easy to tell.</p>

<p>If you walk around like nobody will **** with you then nobody will, if you live in another part of the USA and have had people who came from NY you know what I mean, How they think very highly of themselves and they are not somebody who you want to mess with.</p>

<p>This attitude is not how you dress or look, it is 100% how you handle yourself. so walk around proud and dont let people **** with ya.</p>

<p>If you are the person who while getting robbed or assaulted would then as your first thoght is to call the police, you need to change that mind set, you need to handle yourself. If you can it will show and you will then never need to go throgh that.</p>

<p>Just come to NYC and stand up for yourself and let people know that they dont want to mess with you.</p>

<p>In terms of areas</p>

<p>NYU, Columbia, Fordahm LC, NYIT, New School, Cooper Union, Polytechnic, Manhattan College, Pace and others</p>

<p>Theses schools are all in pretty much the best areas in Manhattan & Bronx, especially Fordahm LC and New School, NYU.</p>

<p>if you have any questions about NYC feel free to PM me. Il be glad to help.</p>

<p>sorry for my bad typing</p>

<p>There are actually some really nice areas in the Bronx. Like, really, really upscale. OK, not /most/ of it, but I just thought I'd throw that out there.</p>

<p>And although I don't agree with most things Vinny said, he's right about one thing - suburban kids live in denial of everything that goes on around them. Sexual assaults are actually eerily frequent where I live, despite the fact that median home value is well above $600,000. Even around here you can't walk around alone at night and expect to be safe, but people do it anyways. I guess one thing about living in the city your whole life is at least you get some street smarts b/c you aren't lured into a false sense of security...</p>

<p>Thats why you carry a gun. If you cant then vote in represenatives who will support your right to carry.</p>

<p>Check out <a href="http://www.packing.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.packing.org&lt;/a> and see what the requirements are in your state.</p>

<p>The B and D lines are nowhere near "right across the street" from Fordham. Metro North is a couple-block walk from its gates, even. You can see clearly from this map that there are quite a few blocks between Fordham's campus boundary and the Grand Concourse, where the subway lines are. What the map doesn't show is that they're also rather hilly blocks. It literally feels like a hike each time I do it. </p>

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<p>Luckily Fordham students have the option to get into Manhattan using the free shuttle bus to the Lincoln Center campus, which is far more conveniently located.</p>

<p>Stop spamming Gatman.</p>

<p>Not spamming. Making a suggestion.</p>

<p>If you think Fordham University is a bad place just because it's in the Bronx then you are mistaken. Maybe it's because I've lived in the Fordham area for 6 years, and still go by it all the time, but I actually feel safer there than I do in other parts of the Bronx.</p>

<p>The places you should feel unsafe at are those that aren't very populated. Less people around, more chances of something bad happening to you. That's the way I see it anyways.</p>

<p>As far as Fordham goes, they have a bunch of entrances. I don't have an ID yet but I had a problem just ONCE getting in. Generally you don't have to do much to get in, just tell them where you're going and they'll let you through.</p>

<p>Also as far the trains and buses go in front of Fordham University, the closest subway is the B/D trains that pass by Fordham Rd and Grand Concourse, or the stop Kingsbridge and Grand Concourse. It'll take like maybe 10 minutes to walk there at most. There is also the 4 train if you keep walking upwards toward Jerome, just another 5 minute walk added at most. Anyone that actually lives in the Fordham area or knows the area won't say that the B/D trains are right across the University, they just aren't. Another great thing about the Rose Hill campus is that there are soo many buses that pass by so if you want to go to a different part of the Bronx you have a slew of options on how to get there.</p>

<p>If you want to take the MetroNorth into the city you can do that but it also passes by less frequently than regular buses/trains. I hate waiting for that train. And if you need to get to the Lincoln Center campus Fordham has the Ram Van that transports students late into the night from the Rose Hill campus to Lincoln Center and vice versa.</p>

<p>When I first walked deep into Fordham Uni it felt completely different than the surrounding areas. It's really nice. There are some areas around Fordham that are hot spots for trouble but I think you'll find that in most corners where you see kids hanging out. And just to give you an idea, there aren't any places like that right across the university so no need to worry. Your biggest worry might be Roosevelt High School that is right across the Rose Hill campus. Are you gonna be afraid of high school students? If you are, leave the city immediately.</p>

<p>columbia2007, the MetroNorth is not a couple of blocks away from its gates. It's right NEXT to the Third Ave. entrance. I repeat right next to it. Yea, if you wanna talk about its main entrance on Southern Blvd then yea it's a long 15 minute walk but there is no reason to even be going through that main entrance since there is nothing in that area except the Botanical Garden.</p>

<p>rotfl at the yale suggestions- im a paranoid, very petite, white girl and i walk alone at night all the time in the yale area and never feel unsafe. ditto for my other female friends.
its the outer areas of new haven that you need to be worried about. but downtown new haven (where the main campus is located) is perfectly fine.</p>

<p>The University of Memphis is one of the most dangerous schools to go to. They are located deep in the ghetto and the city has one of the highest rates of crime against women as well as one of the worse unemployment rates in the country and scads more that is just too horrible to type out.
The biggest thing that has been going on there has been prostitution. And, I mean prostitution being run out of the University itself. Here is a hyperlink on that.
<a href="http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/media/storage/paper875/news/2006/07/06/News/Prostitution.Ring.Operating.At.University.Center-2120779.shtml?norewrite200607151437&sourcedomain=www.dailyhelmsman.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/media/storage/paper875/news/2006/07/06/News/Prostitution.Ring.Operating.At.University.Center-2120779.shtml?norewrite200607151437&sourcedomain=www.dailyhelmsman.com&lt;/a>
That is great, huh? The University Center is where people stand on the steps and smoke weed and pimp out ladies. Just earlier in the year, there were a rash of muggings around this University and before that someone died because the University has very poor parking problems. None of this is made national because the President is too worried about the sports teams.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the Bronx/NYC/Fordham comments--I'm moving from a burb to the Bronx next year and I'm sure I'm going to experience some culture shock, though I'm excited. The only thing I'm scared about is--I want to get a job and if I can't get one on campus I'm going to be looking around campus, and I don't know if I want to walk a half a few blocks or something alone at midnight. Butt otherwise I'm excited to explore the neighborhood and everything.</p>

<p>You'll find that on Fordham Road there are MANY stores. It's a commercial area to begin with anyways. If you look around and ask around you can easily find a job. If not there, there are other areas to consider as well that are very commercial (White Plains Rd quickly comes to mind as the next closest location and then there's Jerome Ave but that's a bit further away). There are also other places in the Bronx that you can get to by bus if you're looking for a job as well and like I said with all the buses that pass by Fordham Road you shouldn't have a problem getting to those places(Bx9,12,17,22,41,55 right outside the Third Ave entrance; a bit more walking and you can get to the Bx19 at the main entrance, or the Bx1,2,28,34 five minute walk from Third ave entrance). I'll be commuting. I actually live near another commercial area (although nothing like the Fordham area) called Bruckner Plaza and they have many stores in the plaza (in fact there are two stores hiring right now). There are different ways to get there. You make the call, it takes about 30-40 minutes. You'll find, that is if you do decide to travel to other parts of the Bronx and the city in general that 30-40 minutes on public transportation goes by rather quickly and on top of that you can do some work while sitting down.</p>

<p>I go to Fordham ALL the time, and there always so many people that I've never felt unsafe. </p>

<p>Besides, all the white, upper-middle class brats from Fordham U. seem to hang out with other white, upper-middle class brats from Fordham U., so if you are one - it probably won't be a culture shock (unless you go against your daddy's advice and venture outside of the Fordham U. territory, of course).</p>

<p>I would just like to say that UPenn is not in the ghetto. It's in University City which is very close to West Philly. While West Philadelphia is stereotype to be "the Hood" it is really a changing neighborhood with people for all over the world. It is home to one on the best international markets in the tri-state area. I think the main perception of Penn being in the ghetto comes from people who have little or no experience with poor minorities. There are schools in Philly that are surrounded by horrible neighborhoods. La Salle is probably the worst (they sell crack literally right across the street). For the most part the city and the colleges themselves keep the areas around the college as safe and welcoming as possible. However if a student wants cheap housing off campus the may have to live in much poorer areas.</p>

<p>Penn has an average of one student murdered every year. That to me leads me to believe its in a dangerous area. Much bigger schools have no murders at all for the past decade. Coming from someone who has been to the area and has a sister who attends penn I can tell you it is not in a very nice area compared to other universities.</p>

<p>Compared to other universities in pristine college towns? No, it's not "as nice" as something like that, if that's what you're looking for, I guess. The first few blocks directly west of Penn are more dangerous and less nice than the ones a few blocks further west, because all the off-campus undergrads tend to be concentrated there. All the landlords that rent in that area know they're renting to undergrads who have probably never lived on their own before, so they don't feel the need to keep the properties in top shape because the students don't care and they're in and out every year anyway, and if you're looking to mug someone this is the area you go to because you're likely to find some drunk undergrad stumbling around at 3am in a designer outfit with pockets full of cash.</p>

<p>If you go further west than that particular pocket, university city is a really nice working class area with lots of young professionals and new families and offbeat sort of people. Not all of those people are white (gasp!) but that doesn't make it a "bad neighborhood".</p>