UCLA says that those with exemptions will only be allowed to live in off-campus University apartments (if available), not in on-campus dorms.
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I wonder if prior vaccination would invalidate the claim?
Also, so far, it seems the courts arenât supporting plaintiffs who donât want to get vaccinated: students of the university of Indiana and the employees of the hospital in Houston come to mind.
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Unfortunately I believe I am now prohibited from responding as my last response was flagged. Sorry.
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This is probably true, but Benntyâs concern also included contracting it asymptomatically and then exhibiting symptoms of long-Covid later on. As has been pointed out, this can happen to anybody (and IMO makes the problem too speculative to think much about) but for those who are worried, Iâd still recommend getting screened for things that match your symptoms are more established auto-immune conditions. UPDATE: sorry - misread your post originally. I think we are in complete agreement.
Most of the time these diagnoses are backed into by ruling other things out. Anyone can have a long-term auto-immune condition triggered by a virus - anyone. It happens all the time to people (though perhaps more frequently now given the prevalence of this particular virus).
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Looks like UFâs policy is here: https://coronavirus.ufhealth.org/screen-test-protect-2/information-for/students/student-isolation-and-self-quarantine/
Make things easier on yourself. Your discussing something not relevant to this thread but interesting to many. So, why donât you just start a new thread under that title? Then people interested in this topic can join that discussion.
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Why this approach toward @Catcherinthetoast ?? If you look through the thread - there are tons of âoff topicâ posts. Are they truly off topic? @Catcherinthetoast has legit questions and has a right to ask.
Thank you luckjade2024 but the question isnât mine. It was really to ensure bennty was properly advised and informed.
My only involvement in the thread was responding to Roycroftmomâs statement below and trying to ensure it included the EEOC exemptions:
âI do not know what your long term risk of covid is from teaching in person this year, but I am certain that your immediate risk of being terminated for cause is quite high. Good luck with your plans and alternatives.â
I had thought a post telling someone âyour likelihood of being terminated for cause is quite highâ (although off topic) seemed worthy of greater scrutiny. My mistake.
It is not my fight to fight and the tribe has spoken.
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It doesnât seem off topic at all.
Because the mod was giving him a strong hint. Just trying to be helpful. This whole thread is off topic it seems⊠Lol⊠Never said his question wasnât legit but also keeping the original theme to certain threads is hard. Everyone including myself somehow becomes a covid expert⊠Lots of bad information being talked about. Itâs obvious that all of this is a moving target with many fluctuations. But we will all know soon enough. Also there becomes a time in many threads to take the conversations elsewhere. It actually helps in going deeper into those discussions that just might not be completely relevant here. Lots and lots of new threads are made this way on CC
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I thought this was interesting. One of my kidâs schools is posting monitors to control classroom access to ensure only registered students and no possibly unvaccinated visitors enter the lecture halls. The concern is that student tour groups/applicants sometimes try to sit in.
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Oh, wow â just catching up, and glad heâs all right.
Two friends have caught it in the last two weeks â one vaccinated, the other not. Iâm not all that surprised given the early anecdotal popping on science twitter from other parts of the world. We do have quarantine/isolation space here, so if D gets it, unless her dad wants to take the risk, Iâll tell her to use it. Sheâs got a pulse ox and thermometer with her just in case, and Iâm 15 minutes away.
Cripes. I made the mistake of listening to Osterholmâs podcast for the first time in months â every time I write one of these âdanger dangerâ posts Iâm perfectly happy to be OTT neurotic and wrong, and then along comes this infectious-disease guy whoâs had a pretty good track record so far and says nope, you could even take it further. Poor guy sounded absolutely terrified for his grandchildren, and you can hear in his voice that the whole thing, including all the yelling and criticism he fields, is just wearing him down to bits.
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Oh, if this is for me, CITT, thanks â I donât see roycroftmomâs posts. In any case, not to worry, Iâm not going to be terminated for refusing to teach in-person. For continuous mouthing off to upper admin, maybe, but so far, no. Even if it were possible given the teaching arrangement, supervisory staff and fac seem to be on-board with the whole âletâs not do thisâ thing, and my boss has just given thumbs up to moving our coffee tomorrow from an outdoor cafe where the returning unmasked will be legion to a low-traffic non-cafe outdoor spot. Iâd like it if she didnât catch this, either.
Anyway, thanks again.
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Wow, thatâsâŠnot going to go well. JustâŠwow.
The dysfunction in the upper reaches of academiaâs really turning into something else. I mean my strong suspicion here is that the money that showed up a couple of decades ago has just made some of these jobs impossible to do, so that even when someone who is actually capable of doing the job accidentally gets in, their hands are tied. But the number of unforced errors latelyâŠwow.
Not sure where to put this since it says colleges, but our K12 district (6000 students) had 8 positive cases last week. None last week were in Hâs school, but this morning they were notified of 1 confirmed case and another probable case in his K5 school. H does drop-off/pick-up duty and teaches PE, so he sees everyone. And so it begins⊠I sure hope his vaccine holds up.
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Many parents and students donât want masks required indoors. I know of a private university facing significant pushback for requiring masks indoors even though the county requires it.
I suppose people that highly prefer a cautious approach wonât leave if their college doesnât require masks. Therefore, it doesnât pay for a university admin to be strict. And finances seem to dictate that they donât reserve dorm rooms for Covid patients this year. Looking at you UF.
One creative large school district mandated masks, but designated one elementary school as a mask-free option for parents interested in that. Parents had to provide their own transportation to that school if interested.
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Sometimes it feels like weâre living in two separate countriesâŠ
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Will be interesting to see how that works if and when kids get sick. I would anticipate there would be a significant âflightâ from the maskless school if Covid cases emerge.
Obviously the school wonât be able to plan for all outcomes and or accommodate movement between masked and unmasked, move personnel or integrate kids that have been exposed.
While I admire the creativity and desire to offer an option that serves all people in the community, unfortunately I suspect this will end badly.
Not sure for this particular district, but districts in general may be able to impose restrictions on transfer just based on numbers of teachers assigned to each option. Or it can go one-way; you can switch back to your home elementary school (the one your neighborhood is assigned to) but canât go back to maskless later on. Those are just two ways that districts can put reasonable controls on the flow. Depending on state health orders, districts may even be able to prohibit switching at all among the already enrolled, the reason being that the maskless option needs a strict cap and the masked option needs room to allow the occasional new kid to show up. Our district is prohibiting any switching between its Remote Academy vs. in-person school this year. You enroll in one or the other and thatâs your school this year.
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