Colleges That DO NOT Accept Dual Credit HS Courses

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<p>There are more students enrolled at public colleges but according to this [Number</a> of U.S. Colleges and Universities and Degrees Awarded, 2005 — Infoplease.com](<a href=“http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908742.html]Number”>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908742.html) There are 1,845 private colleges in the US and 629 public ones. I agree that DC classes will most likely be accepted at colleges that are familiar with the local CC’s. There is a minimal charge for DC classes taken at our HS and that is refunded if a student gets above a B so it’s a no lose situation.</p>

<p>I asked an admissions person at our local Penn State satellite campus if they would accept a DC class from the local CC and he said they would.</p>

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<p>hv51 - re your post #10 about cornell. This is what it says at the top of their list of accepted AP credits:</p>

<p>Please note: Cornell does not accept credit for courses sponsored by colleges or universities but taught in secondary schools to secondary-school students.</p>

<p>So I think your friends were not talking about getting credit for duel courses taken at the HS - perhaps they took them at the CC directly.</p>

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<p>kttmom – I agree that that is what the Cornell site says, but the moms who told me about the CALS exception are parents of current or recent CALS students who also happen to be very involved with the local CC. Now, they may be blowing smoke, but they are women who I have found to be pretty reliable in the past. What I was told specifically was that Cornell attempted to enforce the “no dual enrollment credit” policy, but the CC’s appealed successfully to SUNY, which provides funding for CALS and two other contract colleges at Cornell.</p>

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<p>PS kttmom – No, the students in question took Calc I IN the local high school from high school teachers using the CC’s syllabus.</p>

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<p>Most community colleges have articulation agreements with local colleges. CCs are often not very forthcoming about these, but if you ask, you’ll get an answer. </p>

<p>Articulation agreements spell out exactly which courses at the CC the college will accept for credit. Thus, if you attend a NY State community college and you’re dream is to go on to Cornell, you can get a copy of the articulation agreement from the CC. That way, you’ll know before choosing your courses which ones will get transfer credit and which won’t. </p>

<p>Knowing this information can be helpful even if the student wants to apply to a college that doesn’t have an articulation agreement with the CC. If Cornell won’t take a particular course, the odds are high no other college will either. </p>

<p>One factor SOME 4 year colleges consider in deciding whether to grant credit is whether the CC has an articulation agreement with local colleges and, if so, which courses the local college gives credit for. </p>

<p>So, while there are no guarantees, it’s usually wise to stick to courses that are given credit by the colleges with which the CC has articulation agreements.</p>

<p>Here, for an example, is info about the articulation agreement between CCs and UNC in North Carolina:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.northcarolina.edu/aa/articulation/index.htm[/url]”>http://www.northcarolina.edu/aa/articulation/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Some states are drawing up similar agreements re dual enrollment courses. Here’s info re the one for Pennsylvania:</p>

<p><a href=“http://republicanherald.com/news/dual-enrollment-program-at-penn-state-schuylkill-allows-high-school-students-to-attend-courses-1.981950[/url]”>http://republicanherald.com/news/dual-enrollment-program-at-penn-state-schuylkill-allows-high-school-students-to-attend-courses-1.981950&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ask about these agreements. Whoever is in charge of the dual enrollment program should be able to give you a written copy of the agreement.</p>

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<p>That’s a lot to read through jonri.</p>

<p>Let me ask you, does this articulation agreement speak specifically to CC courses given in a high school classroom and taught by a high school faculty member?</p>

<p>Those are the dual-enrollment courses I am specifically addressing in my question. The articulation agreements that I have seen at our two area CCs specifically adress courses taught AT the CC by CC faculty. That’s not the issue here.</p>

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<p>hv - can you send me the link for Albright?</p>

<p>I wonder how they define ‘college in the high school’.</p>

<p>Our CC has an agreement with Albright and they do not distinguish between those who took the CC course at the CC or in the high school.</p>

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<p>One thing I should add - my kids were in high school when dual credit came around.<br>
We had to jump through a lot of hoops. All the course syllabai were carefully scrutinized by the CC. The CC demanded that the teacher be qualified to teach at the college level. This was not a problem since most of our teachers had Master’s degrees and some were or had taught in college already. </p>

<p>It may depend on the CC and how the program is run.
Parents should work closely with their high school and not be afraid to ask parents about the transfer of courses.</p>

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<p>JustAMomOf4 – I had to look around the Albright site. One of the pages consulted has to do with those 2-Year colleges Albright has an agreement with. They are listed here:</p>

<p>[Albright</a> College - Transfer Students](<a href=“http://www.albright.edu/admission/transfer/partnerships.html#info]Albright”>http://www.albright.edu/admission/transfer/partnerships.html#info)</p>

<p>I am still trying to relocate the info about what is and is not acceptable from other dual HS/CC courses taught in the high school classroom.</p>

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<p>None of the colleges that my DD is looking at accept the dual-enrollment CC credits except her safety - the state universty.</p>

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<p>glido – could you help me out by naming those colleges? I’m trying to compile a list of schools that do not normally accept college-in-the-high school credit. Thanks.</p>

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<p>Here’s what makes me curious, the credit for dc comes from the college, on it’s own transcript. There are no teachers and locations listed, just like there aren’t on a regular college transcript. Sometimes, the course names don’t even match what’s on the hs transcript. If a place takes transfer credits at all, who in the heck sits down, sifts through the transcripts and sorts it all out?</p>

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<p>Okay, here’s one. We were told that Champlain College in Vermont wouldn’t accept DC’s.</p>

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<p>Thanks Kathiep. I looked at the Champlain website but it wasn’t clear what their policy was. I think I was told the same thing a few years ago by friends whose daughter goes to Champlain but the memory isn’t what it was. I’ll add to the list and post an update tonight.</p>

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<p>Bryn Mawr doesn’t accept them, University of Delaware doesn’t accept them if they appear on a high school transcript, Wagner College doesn’t accept them.</p>

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<p>Thanks very much Zoosermom. While I am a strong proponent of dual credit programs in high schools it would be great if there was more information out there about which colleges do, and which do not, accept dual enrollment credits. This list will be a start.</p>

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<p>I have a child who is a freshman in our flagship state university. One course taken in high school was dual credit and we were told by the high school that it would be accepted by any state university in our state. It turns out that was not the case for the flagship u. It is not a situation of an overall rejection of dual credit courses by the flagship university, but the particular college course represented in the dual credit (in this case, from the local community college) was not accepted for transfer credit. Learning from this experience, it would have been valuable to use a website called something like transfer dot org which allows one to look at different colleges and see what courses one college will accept from the other for transfer credit. So at this flagship state university, the important question was not that a course was for dual credit but whether the particular college course would have been accepted for transfer credit at all. </p>

<p>For better or worse, it appeared that our high school mostly has dual credit arrangements for the easier courses and these particular courses are less likely to be accepted by our flagship state university than would courses that were more rigorous. I think having dual credit courses in our local high school is mainly to help motivate kids to attend college who might not have otherwise. Few of the top students enrolled in the dual credit courses but were taking lots of AP courses instead. I realize this may be totally different in other high schools.</p>

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<p>Rhodes College will not accept them and my D had like 36 hrs of Dual Credit. Taught in high school by CC prof’s and was given a CC transcript AND they were on her high school transcript. </p>

<p>Now, as an aside, whether your UG gives you credit or not …if your kid applies to med school, they WILL be counted. That surprises a lot of folks every year. For some it is a good surprise but for others …not so much. ;)</p>

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<p>Updating the List – Thanks Everyone…</p>

<p>This is a good faith effort, sometimes accomplished by reading between the lines at certain college websites. If I have something wrong please let me know.</p>

<p>Colleges That Do Not Accept Dual Enrollment (College-in-the-High School) Course Credits</p>

<p>Albion College (Michigan)
Albright College (Pennsylvania)
American University (Washington, DC)
Arcadia University (Pennsylvania)
Bard College (New York)
Bates College (Maine)
Baldwin-Wallace College (Ohio)
Bennington College (Vermont)
Bowdoin College (Maine)
Boston University (Massachusetts)
Brandeis University (Massachusetts)
Brown University (Rhode Island)
Bryn Mawr College (Pennsylvania)
Champlain College (Vermont)
Columbia University (New York)
Dartmouth College (New Hampshire)
Dickinson College (Pennsylvania)
Drew University (New Jersey)
Drexel University (Pennsylvania)
Elon University (North Carolina)
Emerson College (Massachusetts)
Fairfield University (Connecticut)
Fairleigh Dickinson University (New Jersey)
Fordham University (New York)
Franklin and Marshall College (Pennsylvania)
Furman University (South Carolina)
Gettysburg College (Pennsylvania)
Georgetown University (Washington, DC)
Goucher College (Maryland)
Grinnell College (Iowa)
Hamilton College (New York)
Harvard University (Massachusetts)
Johns Hopkins University (Maryland)
Kalamazoo College (Michigan)
Knox College (Illinois)
Lafayette College (Pennsylvania)
Lake Forest College (Illinois)
Lehigh University (Pennsylvania)
Princeton University (New Jersey)
Rhodes College (Tennessee)
University of Chicago (Illinois)
University of Delaware (Delaware)
University of Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania)
University of Rochester (New York)
Wagner College (New York)
Yale University (Connecticut)</p>

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<p>Elon accepted Dual credit in History. We don’t know the status of her English Dual Credit as the local Communiity College had lost her registration for DC and we just got notification they are giving her the credit. ( It is a long story) We will submit to Elon but my D has heard they don’t give credit for English. We will find out soon enough</p>