<p>Barnard doesn’t accept them.</p>
<p>Theoretically my school (Northeastern) does not take college credits that were taught in a high school classroom, which is what my Uconn co-op credits were. However, I just called Uconn and they sent a transcript to NU and the transcript they provide is as far as I know identical to a Uconn student’s. I guess Uconn is willing to say they consider them the same and won’t differentiate. Many top schools won’t accept many outside credits at all, whether in high school or college; I know MIT for example, does not accept Uconn credits.</p>
<p>Thanks for the list. Our S’s dual enrollment credits are through Pitt; we could choose to pay $200 per course to get Pitt credit for them. I don’t expect that any of the schools he’s interested in would accept the credit, but since a lot of kids at our HS go to Pitt, it would be valuable for them. His AP’s will be more widely accepted.</p>
<p>There are a number of schools, including LACs such as Kenyon and Juniata, who will accept college-in-the-high school credits for their own programs. Its a little more hit and miss as to whether or not they’ll accept credits from programs offered through other colleges.</p>
<p>HV51 - My concern is that - from personal experience - some of your list is downright wrong.</p>
<p>I am not sure the purpose - at many colleges they evaluate transfer credits on a case by case basis. Mostly you need a “C” but at some schools they will take a C- or require a C+.</p>
<p>I would hate for a parent whose child is enrolled in a dual credit course to look at this list and start crossing off colleges OR look at the list and forbid their child from taking dual credit courses.</p>
<p>Other schools that will not accept dual enrollment “taught in the HS” credits if they are taught on the HS campus and not on a college campus with a classroom primarily of college students:</p>
<p>-Tufts
-Duke
-Univ. of Richmond
-New York University
-Michigan State (if it also appears on the HS transcript - “However, courses will not be counted for both high school credit toward graduation and for transfer purposes”)</p>
<p>JustAMomOf4: I’d hate for someone to not take a dual credit course because of the list also. My kids have taken or are taing dual credit courses, but with their eyes open that the credits won’t buy them college credit at the colleges they want to attend.</p>
<p>Please point out any errors. The fact that your high school’s college-in-the-high school programs are accepted at Albright does not mean MY NYS kid’s college-in-the-high school credits will be accepted. I’ll try to get hold of Albright Admissions today to ask them the question directly.</p>
<p>Justamomof4 - I tend to agree with you. </p>
<p>The problem with such a “list” is that it is WAY too simplistic. Statements on websites like “we won’t accept transfer credits if the high school student received hs credit towards graduation” are open to interpretation. So, if a student has all the necessary graduation credits completed by the end of junior year, and then dual enrolls senior year, are those counting toward hs graduaiton or not? Obviously, it’s up to the colleges evaluating transcripts to decide. There’s just too much gray area for any sort of list to be definitive.</p>
<p>Add Providence College to the list. D3 took Syracuse University English senior year of high school and it was not accepted for credit as it was taught at the high school for graduation credit and not by a college professor. Below is from the Providence College admissions website:</p>
<p>Earned College Credit: Students who successfully complete dual enrollment courses at accredited institutions should submit an official college transcript to the Office of Admission by June 1.</p>
<p>Credit for dual enrollment courses is ordinarily not awarded for:
(1) Courses that are required for high school graduation
(2) Courses that are not taken on a college campus
(3) Courses that are not taught by a full-time college instructor</p>
<p>The Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Studies reserves the right to determine whether courses taken from a college or university by incoming students while in high school may be accepted as transfer credits. </p>
<p>Final approval of dual enrollment course credits will be made by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Studies. Students who wish to obtain academic credit for dual enrollment courses should plan to meet with the dean of undergraduate studies during their first semester at Providence College.</p>
<p>ordinarylives – If what you say is true would you not also agree that it is inappropriate for high schools and community colleges to say claim that ALL colleges accept dual enrollment credits taken at the high school. Anyway, I think the list as it is developing will not be mucking around in the gray area. That is why…</p>
<p>JustAMomOf4 – Albright College is coming off the list. I have spoken to an admissions rep at Albright and they say that they WILL accept out-of-state college in the high school credits in MOST general education areas.</p>
<p>I noted before that I will be making checks with individual colleges to verify their policies. I know you suspect I have an “agenda” and I do – never denied it. I’ll be happy to discuss in detail by PM, but let’s just say here that I recently had a public conversation with two teachers at my daughter’s high school who challenged me to provide evidence that there are ANY colleges that will not accept their dual enrollment credits (for science and foreign language). The fact is, many colleges DO NOT. </p>
<p>My thanks to the posters who are helping me with my fact finding.</p>
<p>
I did point out errors. I personally know kids at Albright and the University of Pennsylvania who took dual credit courses with our CC and those credits transferred.</p>
<p>I don’t know how dual credit works at other high schools/CC’s but let me explain how it works where I live:
Student complete an application to the CC. They are accepted into the course and pay tuition to the CC. They have all the rights of every other CC student - use of library etc …
They receive a transcript from the CC with the course and grade.</p>
<p>Now, if my kid takes Calculus I as dual enrollment and was denied credit but his friend took Calc I after graduation, in the summer at the same CC and received credit — I would have a serious problem with that.</p>
<p>In post #49 – #3 is funny because there are a lot of college professors who are not full time. In fact, my kids’ hs math teachers taught math at a nearby 4 year college( PSU). Does this mean P. College would not accept Calculus I transfer credit from Penn State? Probably not.</p>
<p>hv51 ->>> The fact that your high school’s college-in-the-high school programs are accepted at Albright does not mean MY NYS kid’s college-in-the-high school credits will be accepted.<<<</p>
<p>Okay but that is not what your list is saying.<br>
Folks are making suppositions on here that are just not accurate. </p>
<p>why don’t we talk about successes?? College that have accepted dual enrollment credits?</p>
<p>PM me JustAMomOf4. I am frankly not interested in a thread about colleges that accept dual credit course work. Please feel free to start your own thread.</p>
<p>I AM interested in developing a list of colleges that DO NOT (or do not in 99% of the cases) accept dual enrollment credit because that is the issue that I have been asked to investigate. For those who don’t care for the thrust of this thread I’d ask with all due respect that they either 1) ignore the thread or 2) challenge – with facts – the information provided by me or other posters.</p>
<p>“Now, if my kid takes Calculus I as dual enrollment and was denied credit but his friend took Calc I after graduation, in the summer at the same CC and received credit — I would have a serious problem with that.”</p>
<p>Here’s a fact that I’m sure you won’t like. There ARE colleges that will accept a Calc I course taken at a community college and taught by a college professor that WILL NOT accept credits for a Calc I course taught by a high school teacher in a high school for community college credit. You and I might not like it, but that is a fact.</p>
<p>Again, what I want to accomplish with the help of CC posters is to:</p>
<p>1) Identify those colleges that do not normally accept “college-in-the-high school” credits;</p>
<p>2) Alert parents (at my high school) not to take at face value claims by the local CC and high school teachers that ALL colleges accept the credits before they PAY for the courses.</p>
<p>hv51 - of course such a statement would be inappropriate - about dual enrollment or even university to university transfer. At the university where I teach, we require all freshmen to take a liberal arts core course first semester. If the student transfers across town for sophomore year, that liberal arts core doesn’t transfer as its institution-specific (Ok, the credit likely transfers, but not the course). Likewise, not every dual credit course will transfer (or transfer as something useful). </p>
<p>Now that I see what you’re trying to do here, the post makes a lot more sense. Yes, the teachers claiming universal acceptance are wrong. I’d think, though, providing them with a complete list is overkill. What you’ve got so far ought to prove your point.</p>
<p>Justamomof4 - same feeling here. The transcript says Calc I and a grade, not Calc I - dual enrollment, not Calc I - offered at the high school, not Calc I - offered by an adjunct.</p>
<p>Here’s the Updated list. I have not included Michigan State, Elon or Northeastern either because their policies are vague or the do, in practice, give credit for some dual enrollment courses but not others. I have yet to delete Penn from the list because I haven’t been able to speak to Penn admissions for clarification on their policy (this is of some personal interest because D2 hopes to apply to Penn and she will have taken six dual enrollment courses by the time she graduates).</p>
<p>Colleges That Do Not Accept Dual Enrollment (College-in-the-High School) Course Credits</p>
<p>Albion College (Michigan)
American University (Washington, DC)
Arcadia University (Pennsylvania)
Bard College (New York)
Bates College (Maine)
Baldwin-Wallace College (Ohio)
Barnard College (New York)
Bennington College (Vermont)
Bowdoin College (Maine)
Boston University (Massachusetts)
Brandeis University (Massachusetts)
Brown University (Rhode Island)
Bryn Mawr College (Pennsylvania)
Champlain College (Vermont)
Columbia University (New York)
Dartmouth College (New Hampshire)
Dickinson College (Pennsylvania)
Drew University (New Jersey)
Drexel University (Pennsylvania)
Duke University (North Carolina)
Elon University (North Carolina)
Emerson College (Massachusetts)
Fairfield University (Connecticut)
Fairleigh Dickinson University (New Jersey)
Fordham University (New York)
Franklin and Marshall College (Pennsylvania)
Furman University (South Carolina)
Gettysburg College (Pennsylvania)
Georgetown University (Washington, DC)
Goucher College (Maryland)
Grinnell College (Iowa)
Hamilton College (New York)
Harvard University (Massachusetts)
Johns Hopkins University (Maryland)
Kalamazoo College (Michigan)
Knox College (Illinois)
Lafayette College (Pennsylvania)
Lake Forest College (Illinois)
Lehigh University (Pennsylvania)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Massachusetts)
New York University (New York)
Princeton University (New Jersey)
Providence College (Rhode Island)
Rhodes College (Tennessee)
Tufts University (Massachusetts)
University of Chicago (Illinois)
University of Delaware (Delaware)
University of Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania)
University of Richmond (Virginia)
University of Rochester (New York)
Wagner College (New York)
Yale University (Connecticut)</p>
<p>Isn’t the message here that different colleges have different regulations and it would be best for each applicant to find out the requirements from the schools towhich he or she has applied?</p>
<p>you can add Emory and Boston College.</p>
<p>
As I posted earlier, even if taught by a college prof at the high school, some schools won’t take it. (That’s the way it’s done at our High School. High School teachers don’t teach dual-credit courses.)</p>
<p>Probably OT for the OP, but I can go one better than that. My D and two other students were put in Sophomore college English (Brit Lit) taught online from the CC, in a class of CC students, taught by a CC prof . The students were placed there because of prior performance on some test metric. Still no credit. Her college says (paraphrased), “If it appears on the high school transcript, it’s a high school course.”</p>
<p>We found the same to be true at U of Rochester. Admissions said if that same class was taken on the college campus instead of in the high school, they would have accepted the credit (as an elective).</p>
<p>
My D’s school offered dual enrollment classes at the high school and, separately, the opportunity to take classes at the local CUNY for qualified students. For whatever fickle reason, my D chose to take the classes at the CUNY with college students and she received a total of 12 credits for that and all were able to be counted as the equivalencies from the colleges that she attends. (In other words, the math counted for the same level math, the psych, english, etc.) A classmate from high school attends the same college and didn’t get any credit for the dual enrollment classes taken at the high school, taught by a high school teacher, populated with high school students and appearing on the high school transcript.</p>
<p>But, still, ask. You never know.</p>