<p>I am an international student and have the same dilemma as all of us do: I need financial aid but I have not saved the world :)
However, my EFC is likely to be around 25.000-30.000.
I have no idea whether that puts me ahead of other, more needy applicants, but I want to find some financial safeties.
In my case, no university in my home country offers my major, so I can only study abroad ;) therefore, none of them can be my safety.
So which schools in the US have a total sticker price that falls within that range?
Suny Geneseo I believe would be around 27.000 if I get the highest scholarship.
I would prefer the price to be lower though, because we don't actually have that much money on hand; the EFC calculators hardly work for me because the euro is much stronger, but our cost of living is about double what it is in the US. </p>
<p>If you’re using a FAFSA calculator, that won’t work for an int’l. </p>
<p>If you’re using a college’s Net Price Calculator, then you need to see if it’s usable for int’l students since most colleges don’t give aid to int’ls. </p>
<p>You will have to show that you have the funds to get your visa to come here to study.</p>
<p>Subtract $15,000 from that figure for housing, meals, personal expenses, books, and transportation. Then look for places where tuition and fees are less than that new figure.</p>
<p>I tried the collegeboard institutional methodology.
I suspect we can pay about 30.000 dollars a year if I take out a loan and we sell most of our assets. </p>
<p>I know that most colleges don’t offer financial aid, therefore I am looking for some schools I would be able to afford without it </p>
<p>Is there a list where those schools are named? I don’t really have the time to check out very single college by itself :)</p>
<p>What are you interested in studying. If we knew that, perhaps we can make suggestions for schools that are more affordable. $30K/yr is not an unreasonable budget.</p>
<p>If you’re interested in engineering, forensic science, or nursing, West Virginia University may be a good option. It’s out of state tuition costs are about $19,000/year, and its highest scholarship is $12,500/year, bringing it down greatly.</p>
<p>I have a great interest in neuroscience/behavioral psychology and also political science/women’s studies/ public policy/ public health. </p>
<p>So not really career oriented, because I want a career in academia or research A PhD is my ultimate goal. So a “prestigious” grad school is more important to me, which will be much easier to find as all of my interests are really specific and commonly offered at a grad level.</p>
<p>@barrk: just saw it. I am taking the SAT in 2 weeks, sofar my practice tests have been 2000-2100 (critical reading tends to be lowish because I am not a native speaker of course.
Class rank is top 5,4,3?%, with an advanced curriculum and mostly A’s.</p>
<p>Ok, so you probably want a liberal arts college but a good university will suffice also. I’ll quote tuition + room/board for some good options. Things like books, etc are the same everywhere. </p>
<p>Public liberal arts colleges
19873 University of Minnesota Morris
20456 Truman State in Missouri
25150 CUNY Hunter College
26092 SUNY New Paltz
26866 CUNY Queens College
27266 University of North Carolina- Asheville
27295 SUNY Geneseo
27998 SUNY Purchase</p>
<p>Public Universities
25466 University of Mississippi
26989 University of Arkansas
27121 University of Minnesota Twin-Cities
27920 Iowa State University
29114 SUNY Stony Brook
29241 SUNY Binghamton
29356 Ohio University
29367 North Carolina State University
29421 SUNY Albany
29725 University of Oklahoma
29766 University of Nebraska Lincoln
29797 University of Utah
29919 SUNY Buffalo</p>
<p>University of Minnesota Twin-Cities is proposing to significantly raise their OOS tuition. University of Minnesota-Morris doesn’t charge OOS tuition, so I’m not sure if they are considering raising it too. </p>
<p>Some of the universities have honors colleges which can be very good. </p>
<p>CUNYs are in New York City and are mostly commuter schools, but can be excellent, and well, it’s NYC.</p>
<p>@ barrk: i will try and apply to Dartmouth, Amherst and some of the lacs that do give financial aid to internationals. but I know that the competition is intense, and I am not as conceited as to believe that I will get in
Thus my need for safeties. </p>
<p>@ ClassicRocket:
Thank you very much! That is a great and very concise list I can work through :)</p>
<p>Well, my dad says he will do whatever it takes (he has stocks and a second apartment) my mom says she will sell our house if necessary (divorced parents). My parents are the most supportive people you could ever ask for, but I don’t want to be a burden of course. </p>
<p>Neuroscience is only offered as a master around here - Germany.
Jacobs university Bremen offers Neuroscience as a bachelor, however it is the same sticker price as Dartmouth.</p>
There are many options besides the US, which is arguably the most expensive place in the world to study.</p>
<p>For an EU resident, most UK universities are relatively affordable and certainly far cheaper than comparable American universities. A year’s tuition at Oxford or Imperial is about $15K, for example. </p>
<p>Things get even cheaper in mainland Europe. Countries like Germany, Austria, and France often charge less then 1000 Euro a year for tuition, and many Scandinavian universities don’t charge tuition at all. </p>
<p>Asia can also be pretty cheap. Tuition at NUS, one of the better universities in Asia, will set you back about $11,000 per year. </p>
<p>If you’re set on North America, Canada might be a better place to look than the US. UBC and Toronto are reasonable deals by American standards, about $33-35K per year for tuition + housing/food. Some of the less selective ones are cheaper (e.g. U Victoria and Simon Fraser at ≤$25K per year), and Vancouver is an absolutely fantastic city.</p>
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There’s a reason for that…it’s a specialized subject that doesn’t need to be studied at the undergraduate level. Most undergraduates major in biology and/or psychology and take lots of courses in neuroscience. You can then specialize in neuroscience at the MS/PhD level.</p>
<p>You have fantastic universities in Germany. Do your undergrad work there, and come here for your Ph.D. It is not necessary to pursue Neuroscience as an undergrad in order to study it in grad school. If you check the academic credentials of the scientists who you admire who are currently productive in that field, you will quickly see that their undergrad degrees (and often even their Ph.D.s) are in many different fields of study. Happydad works in neuroscience, and he didn’t move into that field until after completing his Ph.D. in another bio-science.</p>
<p>For good perspective on the US vs. Germany issue, track down b@r!um who usually posts in the International Students Forum. She transferred to the US part-way through her studies, and can give you a very clear analysis of the differences between the two systems and their relative advantages.</p>
<p>Within Europe, the language problem is really an issue I do know English, French and Latin relatively fluently; besides German, and can maneuver Dutch more or less due to where I live. The UK might really be an option, especially because St. Andrews (I love small colleges in small towns) now offers a neuroscience major. However the acceptance rate there is also lower than at most us institutions, like 9%. </p>
<p>I guess I should check put Canada.</p>
<p>I just really fell in love with the idea of going to college in the US because I love the country and its people. Some of my best friends live there, and some others in Canada. I really feel like I was born in the wrong country XD
the idea of a liberal arts education also really appeals to me, because I do go to school just for the sake of learning. Be mentored and mentor is kind of my motto;) I typically love being close with my teachers and tend to excel in subjects where the teacher is supportive (not common here ;)) my local university has 50000 students, with another 40000 in other affiliated tertiary education institutions. There are lectures with 1500 people. Chances are that you will not be able to just walk into the professor’s office and ask whether you can do some research with him because you read an article he published and thought it was interesting. Also, I just love the idea of learning about all kinds of things. I love great book curriculums, I have tried it at home but I just don’t have that much time. It seems to me that teachers and professors are more supportive in the US, and colleges just care about their students. Maybe be ause they pay, but at least you get something for your money I guess please correct me if I’m wrong.</p>
<p>Falling in love with what you understand college life is like in the US is one thing. But writing something like this is another thing entirely:</p>
<p>“Well, my dad says he will do whatever it takes (he has stocks and a second apartment) my mom says she will sell our house if necessary (divorced parents).”</p>
<p>That, my dear, is crazy talk. Where does your mom propose to live? What does your dad propose to live on if he off-loads all of his investments? Could some of this talk of theirs be because they are competing with each other for your affection? Or are they both so well-off that they can do this without risking their longer-range financial futures?</p>
<p>The colleges and universities in Canada are consistently significantly less expensive than their peer institutions in the US. Canada is much more generous with work permission while students are in school, and with work visas once students graduate. Once you know your real college budget (not just the crazy-talk one) take a long hard look at your options there as well.</p>
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