Colorado Boulder vs Case Western vs Cal Poly

Hi, I am an international student who, after receiving several acceptances, has finalized his list down to this final 4, each for different reasons. I have applied to civil engineering for all 4 universities, and also have a passion for architectural engineering which is not available in CWRU. Moreover, I am currently wait-listed at Purdue but after speaking to admissions office and providing them with my scores, and looking at their wait-list statistics I will say I have high chances of admittance, considering their low yield rate. If admitted to Purdue, I will attend there 100%. Meanwhile, I need to send my deposit to one of the other three schools and I am not sure which one. Here are my opinions on each one.

Colorado Boulder: The most expensive on the list but by far the most respected in civil engineering nationally and internationally (I have to consider international reputation as the chances of working in the US after grad is slim). They excel in civil engineering in particular, as well as Boulder located in the most beautiful college town in the US, with numerous activities to participate in daily. Also - Division 1 which is a plus because I love attending sporting games. However, not sure if the final cost of $58,000 is worth it, and I will have to take approximately $40,000-50,000 in loans over the 4 years.

CWRU: Definitely the most renowned and prestigious university overall from the four; however, is not particularly known for its engineering programs let alone civil engineering, bar Biomedical Engineering. It costs $55,000, but I estimated that after participating in the Co-op program I can reduce $10,000 from each year with the income generated. International reputation is lesser than Boulder’s and Purdue’s. However, Division 3, and I’ve heard pretty crap reviews about Cleveland and its crime and safety.

Cal Poly: The most technical of the schools above (which I love) and also the cheapest. However, my major concern with Cal Poly is that it is not recognized at all outside of the US, perhaps even so outside of the West. Yet, it is extremely recognized for its civil and architectural engineering programs, and their graduates are highly respected and sought after, and boast one of the highest starting salaries in the country (top 20 ROI and Median Salaries). So will this regional reputation affect my future if I do not work in the west coast? Another problem I am concerned with is the lack of diversity in the student body; as an international Arab student I feel I might be discriminated against and be subject of racism, and that is definitely a big no for me! Is such the case in Cal Poly. The town of San Luis Obispo is beautiful, secluded with lots of beautiful scenery and college students, and not too far off from LA, which is a bonus. It is the cheapest option, only $37,000, and Division 1, with soccer being a very popular sport there which coincidentally happens to also be my favorite sport.

Overall, I feel like Colorado and Cal Poly will offer me the greatest college experience and I will truly enjoy my time there, with Colorado having an edge in its academic reputation that I am not sure is worth the extra $20,000 and debt. On the other hand, CWRU reviews tend to describe it as a static campus with not much to do, but its academic reputation and ranking are by far the best from all 4. This is my dilemma, academics vs experience? And if experience, is Colorado worth it?

Sorry for the long post, desperately needing help! Thank you very much :slight_smile:

PS: I am more of a party student than an academic student; don’t usually hit the books till finals, and regard the social scenes of a university as one of the biggest indicators to my decision.

Hi this is probably a late reply. I don’t think Colorado is worth the debt. I’m sorry to say this, but if you want to go back to Arab, probably 90% of the general population haven’t heard of any of the colleges. At least in China, even many employers have heard of none. The prestige won’t make that big of a difference at this point. It’s how you feel and how you use the opportunities that matter. Based on your description, I would recommend Cal Poly. It’s has a very strong name recognition in the west. You might have a lot more opportunities to remain in the US. There’s little chance that you might be discriminated, as California is already very diverse.
However, I admit that there’s a difference in prestige: CRWU is more prestigious. But still, few people outside the US have heard about it. But the ranking is definitely something to brag about, if you care. In the US, CRWU and Cal Poly are roughly the same in terms of engineering job prospects. Prestige won’t make that big of a difference since these two are so geographically apart. Neither engineering programs is internationally well-known. However, California polytechnic state university definitely sounds more like they have a strong engineering program. Plus, Cal Poly is cheaper. Overall, I would recommend Cal Poly.
Have you heard from Purdue yet? Which one did you pick? Good luck! Those are awesome choices :slight_smile: