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<p>This is the type of attitude I hope to see more of when I attend GS. </p>
<p>Bravo, good Sir.</p>
<p>âYou will, however, find me anytime you need a friend on campus.â</p>
<p>Thanks, maybe Iâll take you up on that offer.</p>
<p>âThe best way for me to integrate into CU is to be myself, share my genuine affection for learning, cheer on fellow scholars, and excel at my studies.â</p>
<p>I strongly believe that people should be honest with both themselves and others. Those trying to be something theyâre not deserves the most scorn.</p>
<p>There is a conflict posed by humanistic psychology that argues a conflict between ârealâ and âidealâ self. Surely we remain a mystery even to ourselves, at times posturing in ways that may be seen as disingenuine to a more common perception of our âselvesâ. Scorn placed on others is only secretly placed scorn towards ourselves.</p>
<p>âMy hypocrisy knows no bounds.â - Doc Holiday</p>
<p>Hehe, you guys make me feel like when Iâm at CU studying it up, my fellow GSers are going to be fun folks to know. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Maybe we should have a CC dork meetup, hur hur. Maybe not.</p>
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<p>GS students are not allowed in CC core course sections</p>
<p>I really hate to feed the â â â â â , but, this simply isnât true. GS students can register in Lit Hum, etc.</p>
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<p>NO GS can only take the Lit Hum. course that start with âFâ special section for GS only. GS can NOT take LitHum with CC/SEAS studentsâŠ</p>
<p>Get some sleep, ZZ.</p>
<p>For the sake of reason and boredom, one must question whether or not someone defecated in this girlâs lunch box at a young and early age.</p>
<p>Ah, the age-old debate. As a GS alum, I like to remind GS haters of a few things:
Snobby CC students who refer to GS as a âback doorâ into Columbia SHOULD hate GS students. Hate is generally the product of fear and deep-seated insecurity. If you are wealthy, went to prep school and were told from the day you were born that the world revolved around you, that you were better than everyone else, the reality of GS should bother you, but not for the reasons cited so commonly here and elsewhere.</p>
<p>Most of the GS students I know shared one or more of these traits:
-Working class to poverty level existence in childhood
-First generation college student
-Had no access to college at age 18 for a variety of personal and/or financial reasons
-Had undiagnosed learning disabilities until adulthood (and thought/were told they were âstupidâ before their L.D. were understood)
-Military veteran
-Pursued an athletic/acting/dancing or similar career that necessitated pursuit as a teen/young adult
-Were entrepreneurs
-Had some major life event that inspired them to return to college (cancer, death of a spouse, September 11th, career-ending injury)</p>
<p>Yet, in spite of obstacles and lack of preparation, including less access to aid and housing than other Columbia undergrads â GS students have the highest GPA of undergraduate students at Columbia. Elitists must envy that students supposedly admitted through the âback doorâ are actually smarter or better performers than those who had every possible privilege in life.</p>
<p>I went to Columbia because I wanted to be among the best and the brightest and I found them, largely at GS. I made many friends in CC and SEAS, too. They were brilliant, passionate and committed â the same qualities I prized in GS peers. Most often, when a CC student held this attitude about GS, they held it about Barnard/minorities/the poor and anyone else who they didnât think knew their place. </p>
<p>Itâs an odd byproduct of privilege justifying itself â âwe have more money/power/access/prestige because we worked harder and better.â Thereâs very little reflection on how privilege is self-perpetuating. Iâm far more impressed by people I met (GS, BC, CC and SEAS) who were NOT legacy or privileged. The self-discipline and drive to get into and THROUGH Columbia, without the road being paved, says a lot about a personâs character.</p>
<p>^I think this GPA issue has been insinuated and discussed countless times on this board. A few reasons that I can remember are:</p>
<p>-the premed program at GS is a GPA booster
-many GS students are older and more mature, so they tend not to party like freshmen
-GS has such a small sample size that it cannot be compared to the larger schools CC and SEAS</p>
<p>âMost often, when a CC student held this attitude about GS, they held it about Barnard/minorities/the poor and anyone else who they didnât think knew their place.â</p>
<p>So, basically, some people are jerks. This is universal and hardly worth discussing. However, I NEED to doubt the idea that there are people walking around Morningside Heights who hate minorities and the poor. This sounds like late night, B@B-inspired conjecture.</p>
<p>I havenât read anything about the GPA disparity. That being said, Epaminondas sounds correct to me.</p>
<p>that was a great post Columbia_Insider</p>
<p>I had few regrets about having to decline GS because of all the things you hear about the toxic animosity of CC students</p>
<p>now I really wish I had somehow been able to find the moneyâŠ</p>
<p>but you have to admit that the financial aid for non-minority students and non-veterans is a jokeâŠnot to mean that Iâm not glad for those two groups!!! they deserve it too and Iâm happy some on here have a chance to take this opportunityâŠbut people not in those groups can have (a) just as few financial resources (b) the same obstacles to getting to this point</p>
<p>The following is from Harvard Extension Students cliaming Harvard Extension = Harvard College</p>
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<p>True Harvard students would not take such liberties with orthography and butcher the English language so.</p>
<p>âbecasue in the begainingâ</p>
<p>âwe can presnt to the class live (our final project).â</p>
<p>"Not Harvard??? "</p>
<p>This whole message is a meme waiting to happen.</p>
<p>Why GS students do not like Harvard Extension students claiming Harvard EXT = Harvard College ? while claiming that Columbia GS degree = Columbia College degree ?</p>
<p>Im certain now that your ghostbusters lunchbox was soiled in some unspeakable and foul way. From what I understand, there is no real comparison between these two programs. By all accounts, Columbia GS is far more integrated than Harvard Extension, and while Harvard as an institution is more adamant about making a distinction between the BA awarded by Harvard College and the ALB offered by Harvard Extension, GS boasts that it awards the same degree as all other Columbia undergraduates.</p>
<p>It appears that participants in both sides of this inane debate have sticks up their asses.</p>