<p>I spoke with someone today who refuted the claim of CC and GS getting different diplomas (CC-Latin, GS-English). Is there any truth to that claim or was I misinformed?</p>
<p>Youâve been misinformed. GS diplomas are in English, CCâs in Latin. Thereâs been a student-led push over the past few years to change GS diplomas to Latin, but so far nothing has materialized (as far as I know).</p>
<p>However, this is an issue that really, REALLY doesnât matter. Who cares what language your diploma is written in? Itâs not like you will be sending a photocopy of your diploma along with your resume. If you are hired somewhere you will probably have to send your college transcript to HR, but thatâs it.</p>
<p>The transcript also syas âSchool of General Studiesâ. Diploma shows âSchool of General Studiesâ with GS Deanâs signature.</p>
<p>Additionally, when applying for grad schools, institution code for GS is different from CC.
GS and CC are treated as two separate school.</p>
<p>@J M - Iâve hired many an applicant, many straight from college, and Iâve never requested a transcript or even a GPA (and I work for one of the largest corporations in the US, so it isnât just a small business thing). It seems that a lot of people are getting worried over something they donât need to be.</p>
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<p>The Diploma, in terms of language and format, is virtually identical to that of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Buisness School etc. But, that said, I would tend to agree with the previous poster.</p>
<p>you wonât regret going to cal or ucla. theyâre both great schools, and i have tons of family and friends that never complained about their times there (my granfather went to Cal too). that said, UCLA is probably the better pick if youâre looking at lifestyle, weather/climate, and the high ratio of good looking people. not to mention, real sports teams (including pac-10 football).</p>
<p>out of all my cousins, i was the only one to go to a private university - first NYU, now columbia. both have anally raped me with student loans ==> i wouldnt be doing this if i wasnt getting into a lucrative job. however, if you plan on going to grad school⊠any of those public schools you mentioned would be considered high-caliber (unless you are an out-of-state student, then the cost of tuition is comparable to a private university). i worked in dubai over the past summer, and honestly, more people know cal berkeley or ucla over the lower ranked ivies (brown, cornell, also not saying these are bad schools, just sayinâ brand recognition is lower overseas).</p>
<p>besides, who wouldnât want to live in LA - with all that sun they get, and proximity from the beach? and people who arenât pasty white.</p>
<p>if you like labels though, columbia is pretty nice. the only difference between core requirements with cc/gs is 1.) swimming test 2.) university writing (composition essay writing class). other than that, you can cross-register with almost any section, given a few restrictions to some science courses i believe.</p>
<p>also, i donât sense an air of elitism at all. but thatâs because i also donât go out looking for it, or pay attention to it. but when your gpa is a 3.8 (when most of the undergrads are around a 3.0-3.4), it doesnât really matter what a 20 year-old thinks anyway. and i dont think its healthy for a grown adult to care what a young stranger thinks about you anyway, kind of awkward no?</p>
<p>and for people squabbling over the cc latin degree versus gs english degree. does it really matter? most students (cc, gs, and seas) donât even know latin so itâs kind of ridiculous to make a big deal out of the entire matter. the fact is, you both graduate from college with a degree from an accredited college. and if you find yourself stuck in this debate⊠well, noli nothi permittere te terere.</p>
<p>bottom-line: your universityâs name can get you the interview, but you, on an individual basis, will determine whether or not you get the job.</p>
<p>i took the gsae b/c it was cheaper than the SAT, plus the results were instantaneous.</p>
<p>if you graduated from high school, youâll do fine. it was easier than my 10th grade aptitude test, no joke.</p>
<p>also, if youâre the type that has a fit over which colleges/universities that people go to, rather than assessing their personal work ethic, experience, and individual ability, then columbia is not for you. it is a very liberal, hippy ivy league institution - and such elitism is frowned upon here. trust me, iâve been ragged on in my econ classes by my prof and fellow students as being âone of the few republicans on campusâ b/c of my conservative point of view (not wrong, but different).</p>
<p>btw, iâm not even a republican.</p>
<p>"The School of General Studies (GS) is the college at Columbia University created specifically for students who pursue a nontraditional path to complete a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) or Bachelor of Science (B.S.) degree. Nontraditional students include persons who have interrupted their educations since high school for at least one academic year or individuals who have compelling personal or professional reasons to attend college on a part-time basis. GS is also the college at Columbia for students seeking to complete a second B.A. or B.S. degree. GS students take the same courses, are taught by the same faculty, and earn the same degree as all other Columbia undergraduates.</p>
<p>Applicants may not simultaneously apply to the School of General Studies and to any other undergraduate division of Columbia UniversityÂColumbia College (CC), or the Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science (SEAS)ÂNOR ARE CANDIDATES ELIGIBLE TO APPLY TO THE SCHOOL OF GENERAL STUDIES IF IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THEY APPLIED TO ANY OF THESE DIVISIONS AND WERE NOT ACCEPTED."</p>
<p>Hey I was wondering if anyone would not mind looking over my personal statement to be submitted for the GS app. Any help would be immensely appreciated.</p>
<p>Like the title saysâŠAnybody applying for Fall 2010?</p>
<p>Me! I just submitted my application yesterday.</p>
<p>I am also applying for Fall 2010. Just waiting on two more professors to fill out the online letter of rec. Goodluck to all of you!</p>
<p>Is anyone on here interested in reading an application essay who has experience at Columbia GS?</p>
<p>I wasnât able to make it for the early decision dead line. so I am going for the regular decision. has anyone submit a photo along with their app.?</p>
<p>I included one, I just figured it didnât hurt anything.</p>
<p>I didnât read all 60 pages of this thread, but I think itâs important to highlight the distinction between GS and the School of Continuing Education. Too many people who donât understand Columbiaâs (for lack of a better term) institutional layout, believe that GS is the school of continuing education. As one particularly elitist poster put it on the first page of this thread, itâs ânight school for adults - but not at night.â This is asinine. GS students take the exact same classes as CC students; theyâre much closer to us than Barnard,which has their own academic departments, majors, and version of the Core. You have to register to take classes at Barnard and Barnardies have to register to take classes at Columbia, but GS and CC students all take the same Columbia classes. Is GS âeasierâ to get into than Columbia? No. Does it have a hgher rate of acceptance because there are inherently less nontraditional applicants than ambitious high schoolers? Yes. Is the average GPA and SAT score lower because the school considers life experience at least as valuable as tests that compare high school students to one another? Yes. But itâs not a âworseâ school; itâs just a different school. </p>
<p>CC students should be proud of our GS school, which has helped so many who are qualified for the Columbia experience, but would be shafted by other Ivies. The condescension shown to mature college students and the insistence that those who have spent time in the military or failed to go to college right after high school are âinferiorâ to those who have gone straight to college (or taken a gap year) right after high school is elitist, bourgeois, and very anti-Columbian.</p>
<p>good luck to you. since i am international student. i would need to take the ect this coming thursday. i was hoping if anyone here have taken one? i can use a little help here.
hope i will score a level 9 or 10. cause i donât want to stuck in the language program.</p>
<p>Since this appears to be such an active thread, Iâve opted to ask here as opposed to starting a new thread. If the long term goal is to be admitted to Columbia GS, how much difference do you guys think it will make if I go to a junior college for 2 years vs a state university for 2 years? Iâd like to do as insider suggested and get as many transferable credits as possible prior to transferring, but assuming I do exceptionally well at either place how much of a factor will the actual institution be? Also given that the state university and junior college are both established, accredited institutions. Please let me know. Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>I go to cc, so donât know the whole story with gs, but i would def bring as many transfer credits as possible. This is a sad statistic but GS grads carry on average 10,000+ more in student loans than the average CC or SEAS grad. Financial aid in GS is really bad and you only get it in loans. in addition, you donât live with the CC and SEAS kids. Most cases, they live in private apartments, so additional cost of rent is also not encouraging. It might seem like getting into a good school is the most important now, but student debt is an important piece of the puzzle you need to figure out. I have many friends who have a lot in student loans and itâs definitely not a good feeling whether youâre coming out from an elite institution or not. So I advise you to minimize the semester you will spend in GS.</p>
<p>i absolutely agree, which is why i plan to go elsewhere initially. my question is, doing those 60 credits at a community college vs a state university- will it drastically affect my chances of getting in? given, of course, a strong (3.7-3.9) gpa, recs, et al⊠if all criteria is competitive, but the sources are different (state univ vs state junior college) will this most likely affect my chances of admittance? how so, how much? thanks in advanceâŠ</p>