Columbia Official Early Decision Class of 2012 Results

<p>Is there any friggin international with aid who got in???? This is so unfair. Columbia and other top tiers always say "we feel that everyone should get an equal opportunity at a great education" but they exclude the fact that they don't give the equal opportunity to FA internationals. ("due to the limited amount of FA for internationals, the applicant pool is more competitive" <-- Yeah right. Their endowment is in a scale of friggin billions and they don't have enough money for int'ls? Even if they gave aid to every int'l student from their school, money spent on FA wouldn't pass 50 million. Yeah, I know they have to spend money on research, but since when have ivies spent the vast majority of their yearly revenue at all?)</p>

<p>/Rant. Sry for rudeness. I just had to get it out :(</p>

<p>Kowloon: You have to realize a few things.
1) Columbia never spends past their Return on Investment of their endowment. They take only about 5% per year out of the endowment, and make something like 19% a year. They want it to grow, not shrink. Thus, they don't have a budget of $7.2 billion; they have a budget in the hundreds of millions for the entire university. Thus, they cannot just hand out aid freely, without taking money from someplace else.</p>

<p>2) Columbia was built to educate people from America; it was not built on the premise that people from China(e.x.) would come to America to study. Alumni who donate expect the cash to go to American students. To put it in a cynical, but true, perspective, Columbia wants people who get a Columbia education to benefit America; not go back to China and apply their education there.</p>

<p>Columbia's first and foremost goal is to advance education and research, not to freely hand out aid to people coming from other countries. If you want aid, why not apply to a university in your country? I'm sure there's aid for the taking there.</p>

<p>asian, female, and engineering seems to be very common here...</p>

<p>Decision: Rejected :(
Stats:</p>

<pre><code>* SAT: 610 CR, 610 M, 610 W
* SAT IIs: 680 Bio, 650 M-I, 750 Chinese
* GPA: no GPA.
* Rank: no rank.
* Other stats: I take IB Bio HL: 6, Econ HL:6, Math SL:5, Chinese B HL: 5, English A1 SL: 5, History SL: 5
</code></pre>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<pre><code>* Essays: stunning!
* Teacher Recs: breathtaking!
* Counselor Rec: what can I say?
* Hook (if any): I do Kungfu, im as hot as hell, I can melt icecream, I can 1 inch punch (Wing Chun yo!)
</code></pre>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<pre><code>* State or Country: Hong Kong
* School Type: private
* Ethnicity: Asian
* Gender: Male
</code></pre>

<p>Other Factors: Im seriously pretty damn good.</p>

<p>General Comments: WHY REJECT ME I SAVED THE WORLD 10 TIMES!!!!!!</p>

<p>to jhl: i'm not rich at all, i live alone in a sketchy one-room:( i'm going to gamble on a grant we have in korea that's you apply for after you've been accepted to an overseas school. if i'm accepted but don't get it, i'm not going. it's more exciting this way yum yum</p>

<p>as an international who applied for aid and got deferred, i'm not at all bitter. we don't really have the right to be, if you think about it</p>

<p>Ok, now my question is: If we got in ED, what kind of grades can we get away with? I'm thinking A's and B's?</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted, CC</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 800 M, 780 CR, 800 W (highest combined from two test days)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 790 US History, 770 World History, 700 Math II, 640 Physics
[<em>] GPA: 3.87 UW
[</em>] Rank: No rank
[li] Other stats: 5 AP World History, 5 AP US History, 5 AP English Language, 5 AP Studio Art</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Well, I was happy with them after quite a few re-writes
[</em>] Teacher Recs: One excellent, other one...no clue
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Great, from what I hear
[</em>] Hook (if any): Probably artwork--I sent in a supplement</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: New York
[</em>] School Type: Small public
[<em>] Ethnicity: White
[</em>] Gender: Male</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors:
National Merit Semifinalist, AP Scholar with Honor, good ECs and leadership through all four years (journalism, cross country, student government, drama, Model UN, artwork, community service). My application also included a letter from an architect I worked with over the summer...probably helped that he was a CC grad, though he claims he hasn't been "a good alum", whatever that means. ;) Another factor/piece of advice--see General Comments.</p>

<p>General Comments:
To RD applicants and applicants for 2013--show lots of interest! It won't always guarantee anything, but it can never hurt you. I made sure to meet my admissions officer when she visited our school and e-mailed her afterward with a thank you and a few questions--it helps to keep your name out there. I also went on an overnight visit, where I had the opportunity (the morning after) to sit in on a Core class. After that class I was able to speak with a professor I had contacted and showed him a sampling of my art portfolio (did the same with a professor in another department a few weeks later). Both visits were not only informative, but also helpful to mention in the application. Also--ever told anyone you were applying to Columbia and they told you they knew a student or alum they could put you in touch with? Follow through! Not that you should do it just to mention every instance on your app (I didn't)...do it just because one of those contacts might actually turn out to be helpful.</p>

<p>I was beyond thrilled with the decision, of course, and am very excited to be joining the CC class of 2012. To those who were deferred or rejected--you are in a huge boat with plenty of other deserving people. I won't pretend I didn't work hard for this, but I also understand that I was extremely lucky. Weeks spent browsing the Columbia board has told me that you are all bright, hard-working, and certainly fun to chat with, and this decision is not the end of the world for you. You'll all be happy come April and even happier come August. :)</p>

<p>Kowloon: Many Americans colleges believe that they have the moral obligation to help URMs from this country. Many URMs require financial aid. That is why international students who require financial aid will always be at a disadvantage.</p>

<p>accepted columbia college
sat 2290</p>

<p>i gotta say though looking at the stats of the other people on here i think the ONLY reason i got in was cuz my sister went to CC and graduated cum laude 10 years ago. you people are friggin nuts, i number 3 in my class and have ok sats and thats completely it my ECs are laughable.</p>

<p>night owl..have any tips for anyone who plans on majoring architecture in CC? im currently a junior soo ur tips will def help a lot</p>

<p>Hey mls, I'll give whatever "tips" I can--hopefully someone actually in CC's architecture program currently will see this and offer some better advice. (This is going to be looong, but please know that I don't fancy myself some wise old sage who's seen it all. I'm still a high school senior. ;))</p>

<p>I guess the first thing to remember about preparing to major in architecture at CC is that it's not as intensive an architecture major as you'll find at the schools with 5-year B.Arch programs (Cornell, Syracuse, Carnegie Mellon, etc). That means, as you know, that you're not applying specifically to a school of architecture and therefore you do not necessarily need to build up the kind of portfolio required by those schools or involve yourself in the profession during high school as those schools recommend.</p>

<p>That said, I was looking at all kinds of college architecture programs (B.Arch included) so I did all that during high school anyway, and it must have helped on my CC application (if only because it showed that I was taking interest in something outside of school). Have you taken any pre-college architecture courses, either during the school year or during the summer? I took a 4-week course at Parsons during the summer between my sophomore and junior years (many of the other students were rising seniors so it wouldn't be too late for you) and I loved it. We spent most of our time in studio on projects, but we also went on some great architecture field trips around NYC twice a week. I had already begun looking at architecture schools, but that course really opened up my eyes to what architectural design was all about. I definitely recommend doing something like that if you have the chance.</p>

<p>As for my internship, I really got lucky--a teacher in my school who knew of my interest asked me if I would like to meet an NYC architect who was in the school speaking to his son's class. That was an opportunity that pretty much came to me out of the blue. That said, you should always be prepared for something like that. I had a sample portfolio ready to show him (oh yeah, take art classes in high school and always have reproductions of your work ready) as well as a general resume of things I'd done during high school, not all necessarily relating to architecture or even art. It might sound a little intense, but you might as well put these things together now if you haven't already--they're going to be useful when you have 8,000 applications to do. And once more my luck kicked in...this architect happened to be very nice (not everyone I've talked to in the business has been) and asked me right there if I'd like to work in his office over the summer. (Actually scratch that--my luck kicked in again when I found out during my internship that he was a CC and CU alum. Regardless though, the kind letter he wrote me would have helped at any school.)</p>

<p>Beyond that, as I said in my General Comments, I contacted professors at Columbia this fall, including one in the undergraduate architecture program (yes, it's housed in Barnard Hall--that confused me for a while as I didn't know if I was looking up the right professors). Since I live in the area I was able to schedule a time after school to visit campus and meet this professor. As I said, I showed him a sample portfolio and told him about myself and my interest; other than that I really just took the opportunity to learn more from him about the program to make sure it was what I wanted--a good architecture education within a good liberal arts college.</p>

<p>Again, you don't need to fully immerse yourself in architecture during your summers just to get into CC as an intended architecture major. Admissions will be impressed to see that you have really explored the interest you hope to pursue, but mostly you'll just be evaluated like any other CC applicant. Still, if you're really interested in architecture, you can only benefit from trying these things out. At least look into a summer program, and then talk to as many people connected to the business as you can, including college professors. I'm usually shy, but I learned to get over that and it paid off. You might not get an internship, but you'll still be learning from lots of people about the industry. And look at as many architecture schools as you can! I would not have known a year ago that I would want to look at Columbia's architecture major (heck, a year ago Columbia itself wasn't even on my radar); likewise, you may be surprised by what schools other than Columbia are out there if you look around.</p>

<p>Good luck, and if anyone more knowledgeable about CC architecture has anything to say--please post! I do still have 9 months before I get there...</p>

<p>thank youu soooo MUCH!!! good luck and congratulations.. :)
hopefully we can meet up in two years..:P</p>

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED (SEAS)</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 800 790 770
[</em>] SAT IIs: 790 760
[<em>] GPA: 4.0 UW, toughest courseload
[</em>] Rank: Top 1%
[li] Other stats: 9 AP tests, most of them 5's</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Main one was quite original and painfully frank. Spent about 3 months on them.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Didn't see, probably pretty good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Same as above
[</em>] Hook (if any): Some solid awards for ECs; uncommon leadership positions</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: IL
[</em>] School Type: Private
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Male</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors: Didn't visit or get an interview. Read a ton of threads and talked to some alumni on this forum to get a feel for the school. </p>

<p>General Comments: To future applicants - Be honest on the essays and let your real self come through. Don't craft them to fit what you think the adcoms might like. If they can see you at their school, they'll take you and that's wonderful. If not, there's a better fit for you out there!</p>

<p>isn't addmission need-blind of any financial aid?</p>

<p>john5170:
The answer to your question is "yes," for citizens of the US, Mexico, and Canada. However, the answer is "no," for everyone else. Thus, internationals applying for aid are not treated need-blind in the admissions process.</p>

<p>Lets say i suck in SAT critical reading. I have a good rank (top 5%), good grades 4.0, good recommendations.</p>

<p>I am generally good at reading and never had problems, but i just cant skim fast and get all those analysis questions all in 25mins, </p>

<p>What are my chances if I have everything top notch, except cr (for seas)?</p>

<p>how bad is the CR score?</p>

<p>560./<em>randomtext</em>/</p>

<p>omg so many female asians got into seas.. -_-</p>