<p>^It’s also insulting to yourself as well if you insult someone for spending time on a website (as opposed to “the real life”) when YOU ARE YOURSELF POSTING A LONG RANT ABOUT IT ON THIS SAME WEBSITE.</p>
<p>And both of you should stop assuming that I am somehow hurt by the ad hominem attacks. Just because I make a good defense of my points, that means I’m crying behind screen?</p>
<p>Let’s be clear. Personal attacks are fine (in fact anything’s allowed), but they are useless if you want to attack someone’s ideas, especially when the personal trait thus attacked (loneliness, jerkiness, what have you) have no bearing on the topic discussed: GS. So if you do engage in ad hominems, and you do acknowledge that, it means you’re quitting the current arena. Fine, say that, and we won’t bother about you.</p>
<p>Well said Comma!</p>
<p>“ad hominems” - I guess you don’t want to take my advise after all.
Emp, I weesh yuo gooog luck.</p>
<p>No I don’t. It’s bul****t. “Students” refers to this type of human being that tries to learn, of which there are many. “Student body” means a group of these students. I meant to talk about the quality of this collective group, which could be altered by you coming in or staying out. The qualities of the students by themselves aren’t changed whether you’re at Columbia or not.</p>
<p>There are many things I disagree about Strunk & White, and some things that I agree.</p>
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<p>Since most sensible people can assume from this that you mean to call it off, and since you broke your (implied) words with your last post, can I count on this as the last piece of shrivel from you?</p>
<p>All in all, I’m happy for you that you did learn something from your Grade 3 teacher.</p>
<p>I own “ad hominems”. People need a lesson in the history of the English language if they think we can never innovate. New words are fine as long as they’re not obstructive. Further, call anyone (including me) a jerk all you want. That just means you give up the debate. I’ll only talk more if you can convince me that the ideas are wrong.</p>
<p>By “real world”, I wasn’t referring to the internet vs “away from the internet”. I was referring to anything outside of college/high school debate teams and academia in general. Also, this isn’t a “debate”. This is my calling things like they really are. For whatever reason, you feel the need to demean anything that threatens your ego. You just need to get over yourself.</p>
<p>Neither was I, when I referred to the world.</p>
<p>And I was considering calling it quits. This very well might be my last post.</p>
<p>“^It’s also insulting to yourself as well if you insult someone for spending time on a website (as opposed to “the real life”) when YOU ARE YOURSELF POSTING A LONG RANT ABOUT IT ON THIS SAME WEBSITE.”</p>
<p>This is the quote of yours I was referring to. I wasn’t insulting you for spending time on a website. You misinterpreted what I meant by “Maybe it’s because you haven’t experienced the real world yet”. I was referring to the world outside of/after academia. In particular, the world outside of debate teams. No one normal actually refers to a diss as an “ad hominem” outside of the internet/debate teams/rhetoric courses without sounding completely pretentious.</p>
<p>Hell, politicians argue and debate all the time and THEY don’t even publically refer to it as an “ad hominem” when they start making personal attacks or dragging each other’s personal and private lives into public.</p>
<p>It is OK Empp, we understand. Don’t quit, better change your ways and admit you are wrong. Nobody is always right nor perfect.</p>
<p>He didn’t mean he was quitting from the message boards, just that he was going to quit this back and forth argument. I’m sure he doesn’t think he’s wrong, so he’s not going to admit something that he doesn’t believe anyways. It’s not like I really have that much against him. Just the fact that nobody likes someone who treads on other people. People like being around a guy who lifts everybody else up rather than putting them down.</p>