<p>Columbia > NYU (:</p>
<p>I have read almost every comment.
This is stupid. NYU’s rank is much lower than Columbia.
Stern and Columbia Business School, and the Art School @ NYU are the only two can rank against Columbia. Overall, NYU has more “racists” than any other colleges. Just look at those Republican kids at NYU, looked at what they did.</p>
<p>Okay, let me just be more mature. Overall, Columbia is better than NYU, the name, the rank, the research opportunities and the program itself.</p>
<p>Just remember, Columbia is far more famous than NYU.
Many people may have heard of NYU, but when people know you from an IVY college like Columbia, or even better, Harvard, their eyes are O_O.
If you tell someone I am from NYU, they will say, “okay”.</p>
<p>Why? Simple.</p>
<p>And overall, Science and math program at Columbia is far superior than NYU.
I am a math and science person, I don’t really give a damn about the Art School.
Seriously.</p>
<p>Haven’t read through every page but from what i’ve seen, the longer more argumentative posts are coming from defensive NYU grads who for whatever reason feel a need to defend their school with this and that argument to show it is as good as columbia. </p>
<p>In my high school,which is ranked among the top in the country, there were several people who went to NYU. Those guys did not rank in the top 10% of my class and the reason they went to NYU was because they could not get into columbia or any other ivy league school. Those who were in the top 10% mostly went to ivy league schools including columbia (me). Needless to say, NYU was my safety and there’s a reason for that.</p>
<p>“Wake up in the morning feeling like P. Diddy”</p>
<p>Let’s take a break from this argument, and grab a muffin. Anyone with me?</p>
<p>Arguing about this is so redundant. Any school is basically as good as you make it out to be. If you’re a lousy student, you probably won’t get anywhere in life. End of story.</p>
<p>As a prospective college student applying to both Columbia and NYU, I am almost turned off to both these colleges by this silly debate. I hope that most students at Columbia and NYU do not act this immaturely.</p>
<p>NYU is just a glorified state school.</p>
<p>Columbia all the way.</p>
<p>I’m applying to Stern and Columbia this year. You guys need to chill out and quit being idiots. Columbia tops NYU in every way except business + drama/arts.</p>
<p>And I’d still go to Columbia over NYU for business. Better alumni networks, also proximity to Wall Street, bigger target school than Stern. But Stern is not shabby at all. And both live the city life.</p>
<p>so this goes with the thing about does columbia have school spirit - of course it does. the way we beat up on the poor violets proves that.</p>
<p>i like that somehow denouncing as trash a school is somehow irrational on here, but when it is done on the football field like the way that Oklahoma and Texas treat each other it is somehow the apex of human virility. the entire conception of rivalry in college athletics is about reducing the competition rhetorically through often irrational statements. </p>
<p>but i will hit you here skittled - i know you said you’d go to columbia over stern. i hope in part that you didn’t mention is that columbia offers a better and more rounded educational experience and not just name. </p>
<p>but i think you have to believe that business education for ugrads makes any degree of sense before you start saying that one school is better than the other at ‘business’. ‘business’ as we know it is primarily economics and psychology - you can do that at columbia with some pretty incredible professors. so i would never concede on the fact that stern is better at columbia at ‘business’ education. rather, i would say that stern buys into an idea (that not even Wharton says as much as their degree is in BES) that there is some amorphous concept called business that can be taught to students. and all you students at home hungry for the idea of making money apply to business schools thinking that somehow the education you receive there is far different than what you receive elsewhere. the biggest differences - you have interactive leadership classes, and more hands on experiences to some degree. (at columbia you can start your own business and have the same kind of experience through columbia’s start-up initiative). i was talking to a student who is applying to BBA programs and she was like yeah i want to be in business, its all i’ve ever wanted to do - i asked her what she thought that meant, and crickets. i think that before you portend to run a business, students should learn the fundamentals. the reason why we major in liberal arts disciplines is that we should know the theoretical and historical development of these ideas. we can’t just do modern physics without classical physics. so if you look at most of the classes at stern for BBA they are no different than the ones you’d do at columbia economics, and especially not if you take some psych classes, or the few more accounting/finance classes you can take at the Bschool.</p>
<p>so if we are to talk about business - lets call it an interdisciplinary study of human behavior and make it a special program that joins econ, psych, math and stats. but in the end you need to take basic psych and basic econ to concretely understand these ideas, and i would argue that a business major ends up diluting the essential information you should have to truly understand business. </p>
<p>and back to the stern v. cu thing. does stern have some top notch econ, finance and other subdiscipline folks? yes. they are pretty great. but not better than columbia in my estimation. and i think that stripping things to their bare bones and not buying into concepts wholesale makes sense and would lead us away from saying things like NYU is better for ‘business.’ especially when i would never say for grad that stern is better than CBS (maybe even, maybe a nod to CBS, but never the other way around).</p>
<p>Columbia is definitely more prestigious than NYU, but NYU is a very good school. Just because Columbia is the right school for you doesn’t mean it’s right for everyone. If you go to NYU and you actively pursue opportunities, you may be better off than an arrogant student at Columbia who already thinks he/she is the top at everything and just relies on the name of a good school to help them have a future. I have a friend who was admitted to Yale and Columbia, and she visited both schools and chose Yale easily because she said the students at Columbia were weird and didn’t have very good personalities. Of course, this does not apply to all Columbia students because anywhere you go, there will be people you like and people you don’t like, but based on this thread, I would have to agree. If all students at Columbia are this stuck-up and close-minded, then it must be a terrible place to be for college. But then maybe the people in this thread who are dissing NYU are applicants who won’t even get into Columbia.</p>
<p>who are you arguing against ilove? i don’t get it.</p>
<p>but you again are trying to construct somehow that being bellicose is bad, but yet our society encourages rivalry. and for better or worse, nyu and columbia are strong rivals.</p>
<p>perhaps you should ask the arrogant question about NYUers who write pieces for local websites that denigrate columbia? are they playing nice? this is not a rational debate about merits, it is a jingoistic argument with biased perspectives. </p>
<p>certainly i can read off a bunch of things that nyu is great in, but that is best done by NYUers than me on the columbia board.</p>
<p>and if your argument is somehow that columbians are arrogant and with ‘weird personalities’ that is basically a description writ large of most ivy leaguers.</p>
<p>the hilarity, is that columbia is known (and i would concur) as being the least arrogant of the ivies, far less so than Yale whose entire existence revolves around countering Harvard.</p>
<p>Okay so, at my school, I am pretty sure that I am the only person EVER to apply to an Ivy. So while I agree that Columbia might be a “better school” that doesn’t make it the right school for everyone. And from someone who has grown up around “ordinary” people, the chance to even go to NYU is amazing and would garner impressive looks just like Columbia would. I don’t think this thread was supposed to be about which school is “better,” just a comparison for people who want to attend a good school in NYC. Because not everyone has the means to visit and there are some things you just can’t learn from a website. So thanks for wasting this opportunity…</p>
<p>Guys what are you talking about?? It all depends on which major are you in. If you are a business major then go to NYU, especially if you major is Finance because it’s ranked 3rd in the whole U.S. the undegrad. major in Finance at NYU better than Harvard’s and many others, Accounting major was ranked 9th as of 2009. In addition to that, in some areas NYU is much better than Columbia, in others not.</p>
<p>columbia nor harvard, and probably not any liberal arts school has a ‘finance’ nor an ‘accounting’ major. thus, it is hard to compare apples to oranges.</p>
<p>and if you wish to major in ‘business’ then well, as many of us have gone off before, business education (heck look at the debates about MBAs) is a debateable concept. there are those like me who do not really believe in it. for the top tier, business ed is like specializing too early, at the lower tiers, the amount of knowledge you would already need to learn on the job more than supplements this need. it is catchy and kitsch, but not necessarily providing a basis in fundamental concepts, which college ought to do.</p>
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<p>NYU has a finance major but unfortunately still does not place as well as Columbia or Harvard on wall street. More prestigious positions at top investment banks, asset management and consulting firms come to Columbia and Harvard than Stern. I’ve recruited on columbia’s campus and have friends at stern and I’ve compared opportunities, columbia has more firms and better positions on offer. If you want to work in finance it’s wharton then harvard, then others and columbia, then others and nyu.</p>
<p>Stern being in new york does better than say ross or UVA business.</p>
<p>Recruiters go where the talent is. Getting into Columbia already stereotypes you as being hardworking and intelligent. If neither of these things turns out to be true, it won’t likely end well for you when it comes to job searching anyways. The prestige factor that recruiters are going to care about is in the achievement of showing that you were at the top of the applicant pool, not so much in the fact that you go to a specific school. I can only assume that a lot of firms have also had great success with Columbia alumni in the past and thus continue to pursue students based on that.</p>
<p>Merit will take you much farther than name, the problem is that it is hard to separate the two in many cases since merit is what you need to get the name ;). I have to agree with the fact that there are some pretentious folk affiliated with Yale. A group of my classmates were working at a bone marrow donor recruitment even at the Yale Club here in NYC and they wouldn’t let them into the club proper to use the restrooms, get coffee, or even warm up because of the fact that they weren’t alum or members. Sad, considering that they invited them there.</p>
<p>while we are on this conversation of business majors…
businessweek’s latest ranking puts Wharton 3rd!</p>
<p>[The</a> Best Undergrad B-Schools - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_10/b4122048934051.htm]The”>Businessweek - Bloomberg)</p>
<p>i agree that Columbia > NYU :]</p>
<p>ok i just have a few questions. Columbia was originally my first choice for college–unfortunately i was rejected. i was accepted to NYU however, and i plan on doing pre med there. I was wondering if NYU pre med really is any good? or should i consider transferring after a year or so of NYU…would that be more beneficial in applying for med school? and how is columbia as far as preparing people for medical school?</p>