Columbia vs UChicago vs Princeton

<p>While many people correctly consider UChicago the finest undergraduate program in the U.S., no one considers Princeton the best.</p>

<p>[University</a> of Chicago: Best University - YouTube](<a href=“University of Chicago: Best University - YouTube”>University of Chicago: Best University - YouTube)</p>

<p>UChicago blows aways Princeton, Harvard, Stanford, and Yale in Nobel Prizes. Those other schools are 3rd and 4th tier in Nobel prizes. UChicago and Cambridge lead the world.</p>

<p>As for money–indeed this is a way the Ivy League geniuses would rank universities rather than academic quality–it is worth pointing out the following:</p>

<p>1) The richest person who attended UChicago, Larry Ellison is #3 is the U.S. in wealth–richer than any one who attended Princeton.
2) Forbes ranks UChicago #6 in number of billionaire alums. Princeton is #10:
[In</a> Pictures: Billionaire Universities - 10. Princeton University (tie) - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/11/harvard-stanford-columbia-business-billionaires-universities_slide_12.html]In”>In Pictures: Billionaire Universities)
3) In addition, with its tops Business School, Law School, and economics department, UChicago is much prominent in business than Princeton.</p>

<p>That’s not true at all. I consider Princeton to be the best undergrad institution and I go to u of c</p>

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You know you’re grasping at straws when you cite a joke ranking like Princeton Review.</p>

<p>US News undergraduate</p>

<h1>1 Princeton</h1>

<h1>4 Columbia</h1>

<h1>5 Chicago</h1>

<p>[National</a> University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities)</p>

<p>US News graduate - all fields</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago / Columbia</h1>

<p>US News graduate - sciences</p>

<h1>6 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>10 Chicago</h1>

<p>US News graduate - humanities/social sciences</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2010 NRC rankings - core 32 fields</p>

<h1>2 Princeton</h1>

<h1>6 Columbia</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 20
27 Princeton
24 Columbia
18 Chicago</p>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 10
24 Princeton
14 Columbia
11 Chicago</p>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 5
18 Princeton
7 Columbia
6 Chicago</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1006939-princeton-2010-national-research-council-nrc-rankings-news-item.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1006939-princeton-2010-national-research-council-nrc-rankings-news-item.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>1995 NRC rankings - all fields</p>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>14 Princeton</h1>

<h1>15 Chicago</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - nonzero fields</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>11 Columbia</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - humanities</p>

<h1>2 Princeton</h1>

<h1>4 Columbia</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - biology</p>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>11 Chicago</h1>

<p>Princeton unranked</p>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - engineering</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>30 Columbia</h1>

<p>Chicago unranked</p>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - physical sciences</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>14 Columbia</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - social sciences</p>

<h1>5 Chicago</h1>

<h1>8 Princeton</h1>

<h1>10 Columbia</h1>

<p>[NRC</a> Rankings](<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc1.html]NRC”>NRC Rankings)</p>

<p>AWRU</p>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>9 Chicago</h1>

<p>AWRU - natural sciences and math</p>

<h1>3 Princeton</h1>

<h1>11 Columbia</h1>

<h1>15 Chicago</h1>

<p>AWRU - social sciences</p>

<h1>2 Chicago</h1>

<h1>5 Columbia</h1>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<p>[Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities | ARWU | First World University Ranking | Shanghai Ranking](<a href=“http://www.shanghairanking.com/index.html]Academic”>ShanghaiRanking)</p>

<p>THE ranking</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>9 Chicago</h1>

<h1>12 Columbia</h1>

<p>THE ranking - reputation</p>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<h1>14 Chicago</h1>

<h1>15 Columbia</h1>

<p>THE ranking - arts and humanities</p>

<h1>3 Chicago</h1>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - engineering</p>

<h1>3 Princeton</h1>

<p>Chicago and Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - life sciences</p>

<h1>8 Princeton</h1>

<h1>12 Chicago</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - physical sciences</p>

<h1>1 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - social sciences</p>

<h1>4 Chicago</h1>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>[The</a> Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/]The”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/)</p>

<p>Awards production</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago and Columbia</h1>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/798325-rhodes-marshall-truman-nsf-fulbright-scholars-private-universities.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/798325-rhodes-marshall-truman-nsf-fulbright-scholars-private-universities.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Chicago “leads the world” because it includes anyone who was even remotely associated with the university, including researchers who stayed at the university for one year. Other universities like Harvard are much more conservative, and Harvard in particular would thrash Chicago if it were more liberal in its counting practices. Even Phuriku admitted this.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14111297-post4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14111297-post4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, Columbia has more than either Chicago or Cambridge.</p>

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Yes, Larry who attended for…one term. See what I mean about the desperate counting?</p>

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Chicago at 13, Princeton at 9. Not bad at since all of Princeton’s will be undergraduates, but I’ll wager maybe half of Chicago’s are. </p>

<p>There is pretty much no metric in which Chicago beats Princeton in academics. You can’t even really argue rigor anymore. Princeton has implemented capped grades and grade deflation, while grade inflation at Chicago continues to rise. Additionally, unlike Chicago, Princeton requires an intense senior thesis of all students.</p>

<p>UChicago and Harvard grad here. Have noticed that the Princeton folk have been very prickly of late about their school’s prestige on this and on other threads. They seem to be particularly angered by partisans of Columbia (more selective than Princeton at this time) and UChicago (because it is “on the move”). The vitriol suggests a certain creeping insecurity on the part of Princetonians. Because, really, if you are that INARGUABLY superior, why bother to argue?</p>

<p>The one thing I love about the US News ranking this year is the fact that five schools are tied in the top ten, as if admitting that the educational differences between top schools really are minimal. I could be wrong in the magnitudes of difference, but here’s hoping that one day US News will continue this trend of publishing in clusters so that general ranking battles become less vicious and people become more focused on actual fit. I mourned A LOT more saying no to number 13 Hopkins than number 11 Dartmouth…</p>

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Neither a Princetonian nor insecure here. Simply someone with contempt for the overweening arrogance and self-importance of many Chicago people, which has shifted from amusing to insufferable.</p>

<p>I don’t know what the bickering is about over here. Both UChicago and Princeton are honorable institutions, and both of which can provide comparable, world-class education.</p>

<p>Hello Pot! Meet Kettle!</p>

<p>Larry Ellison is a bit of a scumbag, just sayin’</p>

<p>Chicago and Princeton are much more similar than different in terms of their commitment to teaching undergraduates. Choose based on where you feel most comfortable. </p>

<p>Also, agree with PMCM18, USNWR should rank in tiers (but this would not sell as many magazines).</p>