<p>now this is interesting!</p>
<p>apparently you were banned, keep it up and there will soon be enough reason to have you banned again.</p>
<p>I'd just like to point out, for the record, that in my opinion, the differences between those with a 1500 and a 1600 are a matter of careless errors and test-day randomness factors. If you're smart enough to get a 1500, you have "beaten the test", and are likely smarter than the test-makers. The difference between that and a 1600 isn't an intelligence one, it's attention to detail and random things like careless errors.</p>
<p>I took the SAT twice, the first time got 800M/700V. Was annoyed that I missed a few of the easier questions on the verbal, so I took it again. 800M/750V. It's not that the tougher questions stumped me, I just missed a smaller set of easy questions based on randomness. I also happen to be a sort who makes few careless errors in a quantitative "always one right answer" mode like a Math section. Others may have less precision there but more precision in reading comp, but that doesn't make me any smarter than they are, and vice versa.</p>
<p>My point: arguing over a median SAT range, once it's above 1500, is completely pointless. The numbers mean nothing at that point. Columbia is clearly looking for other things to differentiate students, once they hit those plateaus.</p>
<p>I realize that I'm resurrecting a dead thread, but If Penn accepted the same percentage of people as Columbia did, they would be exactly the same size:</p>
<p>Penn: for 10.6%, .106<em>23000 = 2438
multiply that by the yield: .63</em>2438 = 1535</p>
<p>That's the same number of kids who go to Columbia each year.</p>
<p>In other words, if Penn suddenly decided it wanted to downsize and enforce on-campus living, it could easily do so and be a Columbia, essentially.
Meaning, Penn is equally as selective as Columbia, when you adjust for size; they just have to accept 5 percent more in order to fill the place.</p>
<p>the approximate number of students in each of Columbia's entering classes is between 1300 and 1350. I know this quite well since I managed data that depended upon knowing the precise number of students in the system at any one time, which was typically around 5300 (for all 4 classes combined).</p>
<p>That just means Penn could be even more selective (having, as it does, a much larger group of applicants).</p>
<p>who cares? We don't deal in hypotheticals, what a school does is what we rate it by. Also Columbia's selectivity is only one of its many positive attributes...</p>
<p>Word, sorry. I was bored and I had my calculator layin' around.</p>