<p>I'm not joking about the crossword puzzle. She even gave us a copy in advance and we helped each other in class and used our books, then took the exact same puzzle on the exam day. I'm dead serious. High school is such crap. The Bio. class I took in college was seriously way easier and I actually learned something from it. And, the tests.....were actual tests.</p>
<p>I feel the community colleges are easier. I took two classes over the summer both on tuesday and thursday. And I remember not even doing homework, till the day before we had to turn it in, which was homework given over a six week time frame.</p>
<p>Overall I'd say it's a step up from non-ap/honors classes at the high school, but easier then ap/honors.</p>
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<p>Which makes me wonder what the point of AP tests are. If they aren't like the college courses that they are supposed to replace for credit, what's the point??</p>
<p>community college classes > AP classes</p>
<p>Anyone around the LA area know how PCC and GCC are? Esp in Spanish...</p>
<p>If CC classes are that easy, then I can understand why colleges (except same-state U's) usually don't accept them. But in that case, I don't understand why do students take them?? Are you doing them for HS credit??</p>
<p>My rising-senior D is taking 2 CC classes this summer (polysci and econ) partly because she couldn't find a job but also because they're supposed to transfer directly to the state U she's interested in (as general ed requirements for her specific engr. major). If she ends up going out-of-state or private, then she will either just blow them off, or take the corresponding AP (& supplement with self-study if necessary).</p>
<p>Most community college credits usually won't transfer without a degree. Which is why most people go two years at the local cc.</p>
<p>I'm not surprised that CC courses are percieved to be easier than high school classes. The target student body at CC's are teens who didn't do well in their high school curriculum, immigrants, or those who are headed toward the vocational route. CC courses are not ready to accomodate the needs of students who are meant to attend rigorous 4-year universities. The courses are dumbed down to allow those non-traditional students to handle the pressures of higher learning. Some of you who have or are considering taking CC courses have also taken the most (or close to it) intensive classes at your high schools. You are the ones who may be dissatisfied in the CC classes because you are not part of the target student population CCs attract and aim to educate. </p>
<p>But, I myself is taking a CC course over the summer in Pre-Calc. I'm amused to see how it will turn out. I don't expect it to be too worthwhile since I'm only taking it to improve my math skills and prepare me for the math class I'm taking next year in school.</p>
<p>My classes at a university are also easier in my opinion.</p>
<p>bluealien01-AP classes are like the college courses that they are supposed to replace for credit. They are not designed to be the equivalent of community college classes, but rather "real" college classes so that they are actually challenging.</p>
<p>kinglin, thats not true. class transferability is determined on a class by class basis. A degree would have nothing to do with it.</p>
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<p>I am referring to real college classes.</p>
<p>1) community college courses ARE NOT counted in your GPA calculation for 99% of schools in the US
2) AP's are more favored for the very fact everyone is put on the same scale; let's look at it honestly. It's community college. Unfortunately the top tier do not attend these schools and in many cases these students have lower intelligence than most "smart" high school students</p>
<p>I thought CC was bettter but guess not. What options do you have except for APs since some APs are easy? When I took APs I expected a college discussion course, but it was a disappointment. Where can you take seminar classes or in-depth classes while in high school</p>
<p>bluealien01- Ok, then AP classes are like college classes from non-community colleges.</p>
<p>I took some cc classes in my sophomore year. They were pretty easy (got a 3.9-something cumulative gpa). I also took the AP bio test, but no class. The test was not really anymore difficult than any other exam I took at cc. Preparation seemed more difficult just because I was self-studying. </p>
<p>But I don't necessarily believe the <em>classes</em> are more difficult than the other. While on our AP break, I listened to the other students take about their teachers and classes. The majority of their conversations went a little like this:</p>
<p>"Did you do any of your reading?"</p>
<p>"Pffftt... no."</p>
<p>Yet, they still managed to pass the class with a fairly decent grade. (Don't know how well they did on the test, though.) If they tried pulling that in any of the classes I took at the cc, they would've failed. The professors would have asked them to drop and they would have been out 400 dollars. </p>
<p>On an entirely different note, I think comparing the AP and college classes is impossible. Even AP classes from one highschool to the next will differ in difficulty. Look at the SAT discussion board. Some students say their AP classes are a piece of cake. Colleges are no different. Heck, there will be differences in course difficulty depending upon which professor you have (one of the profs in my cc is known to rule her classes with an iron fist while another will lecture his lit classes about Monday night football-- sigh). There really isn't a way to compare courseloads.</p>
<p>Anyway, LOL, while reading the other posts, I kept thinking, "Gee, the students at Deep Springs are going to be TICKED."</p>
<p>isn't PCC Pasadena City College?? ...that's one of the best community college i know. People say they actually have the same level as UCLA</p>
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<p>Not in my opinion. Which is the point I was trying to make.</p>
<p>Yes PCC is the #4 ranked CC in the nation. Which is why I am apprehensive about taking classes there.</p>
<p>You are asking the wrong crowd when you came to CC to ask about community colleges. I would be almost sure that adcoms would view community college courses as better than AP courses. I'm curious what people would have said if you'd asked whether classes at the local State U. were better than AP courses. I would recommend that you communicate with some actual admission officers at some of the schools you are considering.</p>