Concerns of an Incoming Freshman

Hi there!

I just committed to Princeton (class of 2022)! I love the campus and academics (especially after Princeton Preview) but I somehow can’t shake the feeling that the Princeton social life is a little…drab. I’m definitely not one for drinking/partying, and am much more comfortable in an old cramped book store with a cup of tea and soft music playing.

UChicago has its iconic coffee shops, MIT and Harvard have Boston, Yale has its vibrant theater and music scenes…what does Princeton have? I’m definitely a bookish type and I worry about a lack of alternative thinking and intellectual diversity, especially socially. The eating clubs don’t appeal to me at all: they just make me uneasy, and I can already picture myself feeling excluded.

With all due respect (and what do I know? I’m a prefrosh), when I visited Princeton, it felt like a bastion of conformity, which I am, on principal, vehemently opposed to. I brought this up to my host and he assured me that I would be able to find my niche, but I felt really doubtful throughout the weekend.

Are there cool jazz bars in town? Or book stores with years of history? A theater that plays Rocky Horror Picture Show on Friday nights? A cool venue where local bands play on the weekends? Anything except for pleasantries and country club greens? Do people do anything other than drink and study in their res colleges?

I’m a bit ashamed to say that I committed to Princeton due to solely financial reasons, after turning down my two dream schools. Please help me get more excited for my next four years.

When you wrote “more comfortable in an old cramped book store with a cup of tea” I immediately thought of the afternoon teas held by the math department. From a history of the Princeton math department “The faculty of the mathematics department and many theoretical physicists would meet in the common area of Fine Hall on Fridays for tea, and the opportunity to discuss progress in their work. The “hot” topics of the day were analytical number theory, set theory, abstract algebra, and the theory of rings. Faculty in both Fine Hall and the Institute were eager to work in three areas especially, operator theory, topology and analytical number theory.” http://sites.math.rutgers.edu/~cherlin/History/Papers1999/seip.html

It is OK to be bookish or a nerd at Princeton. Students will respect you for the knowledge that you have. The eating clubs have libraries and areas where students discuss their classes and clubs. Don’t dismiss the clubs until you have more information. I enjoyed many meals with invited faculty at an eating club. About one-third of the students do not join an eating club; if you choose not to join a club you will have plenty of company with other students that made the same choice. The Hogwarts appearance of Princeton gives the impression of wealth. The university has made a significant effort to attract First Generation Low Income (FLI) students. See: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/college-tuition-why-bill-and-melinda-gates-put-20000-students-through-college/

An old saying is Don’t judge a book by its cover. Well, Don’t judge Princeton negatively because of the beautiful buildings. Most of the students are on scholarship. There are more FLI students than alumni children.

If you are interested in theater they are at least 11 student theater groups. Princeton University’s Triangle Club is the oldest collegiate musical-comedy troupe in the nation, and the only college group that creates an original, student-written musical each year. The Princeton Shakespeare Company (PSC) dedicated to producing four or five Shakespearean works each year. Theatre Intime founded in 1921 has provided theatrical support and facilities for generations of Princeton students. The Black Arts Company is a student-managed theater experience dedicated to celebrating and exploring the cultural experiences of people from the African Diaspora through performance. Princeton University Players (PUP) is a student-run musical theater company that produces Broadway plays for the Princeton stage. Quipfire is one of Princeton’s improvisational comedy troupes, and it’s made up of witty students not afraid to get on stage without having a clue as to what they’re about to do. Fuzzy Dice is another improv theater group that features a skit with four faces, four keywords and four plot lines. The Princeton Stand-Up Comedy is a group dedicated to the fine art of stand up comedy. The Princeton South Asian Theatrics (PSAT) perform two comedy plays each year. The Princeton Chinese Theatre is a group dedicated to performing Chinese theater plays in Chinese. The French Theater Workshop, L’Avant-Scene offers students an original combination of linguistic, cultural and dramatic training. The McCarter Theater is a professional theater group next to the campus. https://www.mccarter.org/

Princeton currently has six jazz groups; the Concert Jazz Ensemble, a “Swingtet”, a Jazz Vespers Ensemble, an Ornette Coleman Ensemble, an African-Latin Ensemble, and the Jazz Composers Collective. Over the last several years two ensembles have won Down Beat student competitions.

Students that want a coffee shop atmosphere hang out at the Murray Dodge Cafe. http://religiouslife.princeton.edu/people-places/murray-dodge-caf%C3%A9 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxczRaag7gU The Princeton Garden Theater is a non profit theater across the street from the university. The Garden, owned by the university shows independent, foreign, and classic films. http://princetongardentheatre.org/

The residential colleges give Princeton a small college feel. You will soon recognize everyone in your college. The residential colleges sponsor subsidized trips to NYC to see Broadway shows, the ballet, and the opera. The student body is very diverse; I believe that you will find like minded friends quickly.

The previous poster rightly points out the diversity of culture and lifestyle available to the student body within the Princeton University community. I’ll just add that Princeton Boro is charming enough but is very small. The University and the Town interact, of course, but Princeton is not a classic “college town.” You do have New York City, though, which is an hour away by train, and I think that’s where you’ll go for the major concerts and shows, etc. And don’t discount Philly, which is similarly accessible.

Hi! I relate to you so much—I’m definitely the bookish type and the party scene is not where I’m comfortable. Even though Princeton was my dream school, I also committed this year largely because of the financial aid. If you ever need an exploring buddy to seek out the best coffee shops and reading nooks, hit me up. Also, I highly recommend the classics library. It’s the quintessential library, and I can def see myself spending the majority of my time there (:

@sache001, thank you for your post. my S (born in Brooklyn) has almost the same feeling as yours, and he is still somewhat nervous to go to Princeton from this fall. Good to know someone has the same feeling as him, and I think you guys would find good friends there. It is true that the campus and town is somewhat too clean, and no hipster atmosphere there. I could not see any jazz vinyl record store nor hipster cafe while we were wondering around. The only hipster (like) shop in Princeton town is miserable Urban Outfitters, but did you know that the hipster is already mainstream and considered to be outdated? Preppy is coming back again, and it is the “alternative” today. (maybe, lol)

Anyway, there is no perfect college tailored for you. You are the one to make the college perfect!

Thanks for all the encouraging responses everyone :^) I have also done some research about the town and I now feel a little more at peace about my decision. I think much of my unease was due to the fact that my host at Princeton Preview and I were not exactly…alike…at all. But thanks @PtonAlumnus for all the great tips!

@cellistem I’m glad to hear that there are more people like me :> i’m in the facebook group (my last name is the first four letters of my username, plus an ‘n’ at the end) if you want to meet up or w/e on campus!

A few things to add:

My D is finishing her first year and sounds a lot like you. I’m sure you’ll find your tribe. We are from Philly so she is used to having some of the things you will not find in Princeton (University and Town). Personally I will say that Princeton doesn’t have the level of ‘authenticity’ that I quite enjoy in the real world but it’s safe :smiley:

Some of the things she does include joining the Firestone Society (‘the Firestone Society offers students the opportunity to engage in book discussions, to meet authors informally, and to have hands-on arts workshops related to the printed word.’) which is available for Rocky/Mathey students though some events are University wide. She goes to the Princeton Garden Theater a lot as she loves old movies and they show quite a few. They also show recent movies as well and before the Academy Awards they screened all the Best Picture nominees. She’s also in the Spanish Book Club. Once you get on campus you’ll have a chance to find out and explore the various clubs and organizations and I’m sure some will appeal to you.

@pearcedel check out the Princeton Record Exchange (about 1/2 a block off of Nassau Street). Small World Coffee on Witherspoon (about 1/3 of a block off of Nassau Street) also might be where your S might find some of his peeps.

As a final perspective on Princeton’s social life, I don’t think you should discount the eating clubs until you get here and actually experience them. Yes, they are in some aspects kind of elitist and exclusionary, but the clubs that fit those stereotypes are only a few of the clubs on the Street. My freshman year, I thought the same thing about the eating clubs, but now, as a rising junior, I’m in a (bicker) club. Some of my best memories have been at my eating club, and I look forward to making many more in the next two years. You don’t have to drink or go to parties in order to enjoy the eating clubs; for many people, the best part of their clubs is just being able to eat there and hang out with other members during the daytime.