Confusion about science fair mentors

<p>How do you contact a mentor?
Do you have your idea and just use the mentor's equipment? Or do you just tag onto a mentor's project?
And like if you just tag onto a mentor's project, is there really any originality involved or is it just recording their results and doing your own write-up and backboard.
If I were a mentor, I dont think I'd appreciate a high schooler ripping off my project, so I'm sorta confused.
Would I be like
Hey professor, want to be my mentor? your area of study really fascinates me, these are my achievements! so could i tag onto a preexisting project of yours? thanks!</p>

<p>or should i bluff and pretend i have ideas already
like this:
"here are some of my ideas:
how can i cure cancer using lkjfdaskjfa
how can cancer cells be targeted using lafkjdaklj
hwo can early detection of cancer lddasfkljakajdskgfja
or...if you have anything ELSE for me [hint hint]"</p>

<p>i dont know x__x
my secret dream is to make it to isef, but my projects are sooo simple compared to the winning projects. i've always done them at home without a mentor, but this year it may be time for a change :P
i made it to my state sf past 2 years, and got honorable mention and 2nd. next years like my last chance ><
help!!</p>

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<p>Usually by email.</p>

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<p>People are known to do both. The more significant (and more fun!) projects are the ones you come up with on your own, because that way the project is of your own original idea. But in the beginning, it’s hard to find mentors who are willing to sponsor and supervise research, so you may have to volunteer or intern at a lab and work on a mentor’s project to learn the basic techniques and become familiar with the subject area. Both can be great experiences.</p>

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<p>You will have to use your own knowledge and creativity when problems come up, or when the results you get do not match the expectations and so on, which happen often when you conduct experiments. Then you’ll have to propose a subsequent step that may clarify the problem, and that may be how your original ideas merge into the mentor’s research.</p>

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<p>If you are merely working on your mentor’s project, you’ll get credit for some of it, but most of the credit goes to whoever came up with the idea and whoever performed most of the study. When you publish a research paper, the professor usually tags his name at the very end and the person with the most direct contribution assume the first author title. In other words, your mentor is not exactly directly competing against you for the ownership of the study. Besides, most research study are the result of group cooperations.</p>

<p>Also, you will most likely be working in the lab for free, so you can serve as a free source of labor. If you can carry out basic lab procedures well, then that’s a plus for the person you work for because otherwise, he or she may have to hire a technician or ask a Ph.D. student to carry out the study. However, it takes a lot of training to get a high schooler to be able to carry out experiments on his or her own without breaking equipments, and if you don’t do your part well, you’re wasting the mentor’s time and money, hence professors may not want high schoolers in their labs.</p>

<p>Another problem is funding. You want to set up an experiment that’s economically feasible and does not require too much monetary imput.</p>

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<p>I’ve seen very simple, straightforward studies doing very well in science competitions :). I have a friend who went to ISEF who had never even met her mentor in person before the actual fair, for she did all of her study on her own and only corresponded with the mentor via email to ask for advice.</p>

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<p>That is quite amazing! Congrats! Why don’t you continue with your current study so that you can build up on it?</p>

<p>oh my gosh thank you so much for that incredible answer! :D</p>

<p>I have a question, not related to mentors.
Does the project have to be original? I mean can’t we make like an impressive DIY project whose guides are available on the Internet and present it in a good manner. Or will that be considered plagiarism?
Sometimes you can’t help but feel dumb that SO many kids are coming up with original world changing ideas while you can’t think of any…
Please help me out. Actually in my country science fairs are common but not to the extent that they are in the US. So do only kids with ORIGINAL ideas participate or anyone can?</p>

<p>Last year, I did fairly well. I got 2nd place in my state. And my project was definitely not entirely original, but it was minimally studied enough for me to make it a good project. The papers I found related to my project were always slightly different and from different countries.
Basically what I mean is, don’t do something so common that the judges will doubt your originality. If you can come up with a good original topic, that’s great! In my case, I came up with the topic myself but found out it had been studied before (most things have). Just try to have some originality.
It’s not exactly plagiarism, but you won’t fare well in the competition with a hackneyed topic.
And I sooo agree with the feeling dumb because of these genius kids coming up with groundbreaking ideas. I’ve been thinking for weeks and still have nothing for next year :
Fear not though, there are some regular kids like me out there too XD</p>

<p>^Thanks for the reply. Really makes me feel better</p>