Consulting firms' favorite Undergraduates.

<p>Yeah, just because there's a table doesn't mean an active recruiting process: which means resume drop, a set number of interviews, 2-3 cocktail hours, receptions, etc. Core schools are very different than stop-overs, McKinsey stops over at dozens of schools but only has a few core schools. Same for all the others.</p>

<p>well, having a table at the career fair might still mean a traditional hiring process</p>

<p>Whereas at core recruiting schools the companies try and get students, versus the students trying to get the jobs moreso</p>

<p>An example of hardcore recruiting could be sponsoring a course in the economics /business department of the course and going after kids who get high grades. or something like that</p>

<p>yes, as defined in the article i linked to, actively "recruiting" on campus, as at the core schools, is very different from having a table at a career fair.</p>

<p>"Whereas at core recruiting schools the companies try and get students, versus the students trying to get the jobs moreso"</p>

<p>exactly</p>

<p>If you intend to major in a traditional discipline (Humanity, Social Science, Hard Science or Life Science), then you want to go to a top university or college. The most highly recruited campuses are:</p>

<p>Amherst College
Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Duke University
Georgetown University
Harvard University
MIT
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania
University of Virginia
Williams College
Yale University</p>

<p>If you wish to major in Business, you can narrow it down to just 11 programs:
Cornell University
Emory University (Goizueta)
Georgetown University (McDonough)
MIT (Sloan)
New York University (Stern)
University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ross)
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan Flagler)
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
University of Virginia (McIntire)</p>

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[quote]
Cornell University
Emory University (Goizueta)
Georgetown University (McDonough)
MIT (Sloan)
New York University (Stern)
University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ross)
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan Flagler)
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
University of Virginia (McIntire)

[/quote]
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<p>Consulting firms actually RECRUIT at GEORGETOWN?!?!? You gotta be kidding me!!! They're business school ain't that great; so just b/c Georgetown is a "name" school there's the automatic assumption that their business school is top notch??</p>

<p>Georgetown is 23 on US News Best Undergraduate Business Programs</p>

<p>You do realise that 23 means that there are 22 schools better than Gtown. And 22 schools produce a lot of grads.</p>

<p>This is preposterous. Rankings don't work that way. Georgetown is one of the elite B schools. Being ranked #23 does not mean that 22 B schools are better. IF you think rankings are that accurate, you do not understand the intended spirit of rankings. Out of 300 or so students who graduated from McDonough last year, 15 joined JP Morgan, 10 joined Goldman Sachs and at least 3 joined Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers. Clearly, the big hitters of the IB world recruit heavily at McDonough. Is McDonough as heavily recruited as Wharton, Sloan, Ross and Haas? Obviously not. But it is still a very highly regarded program and it does attract its fair share of MCs and IBs.</p>

<p>Yeah but in this case we're talking about John Doe from "Wharton, Sloan, Ross and Haas", and John Doe II from McDonough.</p>

<p>What I'm saying is, when it comes to a high schooler choosing between b-schools, the b-school that's more highly regarded is obviously the smarter choice.</p>

<p>Edit: Ceteris paribus of course, on all the other variables. Eg. fit, financial aid, location, athletics.</p>

<p>My point is that there is virtually no difference between #10 and #25 at the undergraduate level. At the MBA level, there is probably a difference, but at the BBA level, #10 Indiana or USC is no better than #23 Georgetown.</p>

<p>While I will not question the veracity of that statement, when it comes down to the wire, ceteris paribus (though this condition is rarely, if ever, satisfied), why should a high schooler choose to attend the less recognised one?</p>

<p>Because rankings aren't always a measure of quality or recognition...at least not in the way you interpret them. #23 does not mean 22 other universities are better or more recognized. It simply means that according to a particular formula, generally cooked up by uneducated and ignorant charlatans or highly biased individuals, generally motivated mostly by financial gains, some universities will fair marginally better than others. And when you are dealing with hundreds of well regarded institutions, the difference between #10 and #25 is indeed marginal ...one that could be reversed should that formula change only ever so slightly. So, when faced with the decision of attending a university, rather than attempting to split hairs in the impossible task of differentiating between peer institutions separated merely by caricatured contrasts, it may be wiser to go for fit.</p>

<p>Sixsixty, the reason McDonough does so well is because GEORGETOWN is a good school, not the business school rank. Same goes for Emory.</p>

<p>The overall school is more important than the specific program, so Georgetown business is a better choice than many other schools with business programs ranked above it.</p>

<p>I agree with Aurelius. A lof of companies do recruit non-BBA majors. Actually most elite colleges don't have undergrad biz programs. I was a chemE at Northwestern and few of my classmates got offers from business/finance consulting firms. One was from Hong Kong (where I came from) and he joined the Goldman Sachs' Hong Kong office. Georgetown may not have the best b-school but the students are of high caliber. I bet a lot of firms care more about whether the person is smart and driven rather than if he's taken finance 101.</p>

<p>Great advice. Thanks :)</p>

<p>"The overall school is more important than the specific program"</p>

<p>this was confirmed by a University of Maryland study on business programs last year</p>

<p>Take a look at recruiter rankings in the THES - this is the only such survey of corporates regarding graduates from certain schools, and as such as a pretty valuable number.</p>

<p>However, it doesn't differentiate between grads and undergrads</p>

<p>"Consulting firms actually RECRUIT at GEORGETOWN?!?!? You gotta be kidding me!!! They're business school ain't that great; so just b/c Georgetown is a "name" school there's the automatic assumption that their business school is top notch??"</p>

<p>Only 1/5 of the top five consulting firms considers georgetown a core school, once again, see thread: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and that doesn't necessarily mean they recruit from their business school; they might get just as many or more arts and sciences grads</p>