Consulting Core Schools

<p>This is from the vault guide to consulting. It lists core schools for consulting firms, but should give you some idea where the most elite firms (McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Mercer, Monitor) recruit. The biggest lesson isn't looking at the exact numbers, but rather that the liberal arts schools do just as well or better than the business schools for the most elite firms. </p>

<p>In order of # of the top 5 that directly recruit on campus: </p>

<p>All 5
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn (Wharton and College) </p>

<p>4/5
Dartmouth
Princeton
Northwestern</p>

<p>3/5
MIT
Michigan</p>

<p>2/5
Duke
UVA
CAL
Amherst
Williams
Columbia</p>

<p>1/5
Brown
Cornell
Chicago
Emory
Rice
UNC
UIUC
Notre Dame
UT- Austin
BYU
Georgetown
SMU
Claremont college system (Pomona and Harvey Mudd)</p>

<p>Don't forget Booz Allen.</p>

<p>That would only be the most elite LAC schools. Also many of the firms have greatly expanded recruiting now that things have picked up in the economy. McKinsey for one now lists scores of schools they will visit. Vault's data is three years old.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/mckoncampus/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/mckoncampus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>slipper, that list is hardly encouraging for students at LACs. Outside of Williams, Amherst, Pomona, it shows that consulting is off limits for anyone at a LAC. It shows you don't have to go to undergrad business school, but most of the best schools in the country don't have undergrad business anyway.</p>

<p>Barrons,
Those aren't core schools for McKinsey. They are places McKinsey will visit, core school is where they have full recruiting.</p>

<p>Alexandre, I left out Booz Allen because its undergrad recruiting is largely for its IT practice, which wouldn't be considered "elite" consulting nor is it a business job.</p>

<p>Gellino, when I said "liberal arts schools" I meant places like Harvard, Dartmouth, Columbia, etc and true liberal arts colleges like Amherst and Williams. The top schools in both categories tend to do better than almost all the top business schools except maybe Wharton and MIT.</p>

<p>Slipper, 3 of my friends took jobs with Booz Allen right after they graduated and none of them were doing IT related work. Yes, many Booz Allen freshers are recruited into the IT field, but they still recruit a great deal of MCs.</p>

<p>i dont get what the list means...</p>

<p>"McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Mercer, Monitor" does this mean that out of these 5, only 1 directly recruits on the Cornell campus?</p>

<p>I randomly checked the websites for McKinsey, Bain, and Mercer, and all had dates that they would be recruiting at Cornell. If you list means something else, please explain...</p>

<p>Mercer: Cornell isn't on the elite Management Consulting List
<a href="http://www.mercermc.com/defaultFlash.asp?section=Join%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mercermc.com/defaultFlash.asp?section=Join&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>McKinsey:
Cornell isn't a core school, its on the "visit" list where they encourage people to apply</p>

<p>Bain: Cornell isn't on the list</p>

<p>bain: <a href="http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=13&page_id=5%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=13&page_id=5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>mercer:
<a href="http://www.mercerhr.us/joiningmercer/students/eventlist.jhtml?geographyId=208030000&locale=en_US%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mercerhr.us/joiningmercer/students/eventlist.jhtml?geographyId=208030000&locale=en_US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I realize "management consulting" doesn't have Cornell (well, i didnt look it up, but i'll trust you), but i looked up HR - since it's dirrectly applicable to me and my major. There it was!</p>

<p>Where's McKinsey's list of core schools? I saw Cornell on their list of recruited schools, but i didn't see anything more in depth.</p>

<p>Gomestar,
My mistake, Bain was the one firm that is recruited at Cornell.</p>

<p>As for Mercer, HR doesn't count as management consulting, sorry. Very different field, held in common only by the name of the company. </p>

<p>McKinsey's core list is in the vault guide. You can call them to confirm, they'll tell you over the phone.</p>

<p>Alexandre, here's the reason I left out Booz Allen
Core schools
Booz Allen comprises two fairly independent divisions: Worldwide Technology Business and Worldwide Commercial Business. The majority of the firm's undergraduate recruiting is undertaken by the former; WCB hires mostly MBAs and experienced professionals. WTB recruits on-campus primarily in the region around its headquarters in McLean, Va. Note that several application deadlines already passed.</p>

<p>well, you didn't specify that the list was for "management consulting" so when I saw Cornell on the list for a type of consulting that i'm interested in, I got confused. </p>

<p>here's stuff for BCG:
<a href="http://www.bcg.com/careers/bcg_on_campus/AreaSelection/school_general.jsp?ID=196%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bcg.com/careers/bcg_on_campus/AreaSelection/school_general.jsp?ID=196&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>not sure what it is to be exact, but typed in cornell undergraduate and that's what came up. </p>

<p>I couldnt' find anything on any college for Monitor.</p>

<p>Slipper, You better check the def of "core school" on Vault.</p>

<p>"[The term core schools refers to schools visited by firm recruiters, while non-core schools refer to schools where the firm has no official on-campus recruiting presence.</p>

<p>Also Bain at Wisconsin</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=413%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=413&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>There is a difference is between "official on-campus recruiting" vs. just visits. There are plenty of places that firms visit but don't have resume drops etc</p>

<p>slipper,</p>

<p>do you think that McKinsey will be hiring fewer students from Dartmouth and Columbia now that they're not one of its "core" schools?</p>

<p>(correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe that it was mckinsey that took 3 schools off of their 'core' list)</p>

<p>This doesn't mean people from Cornell etc. won't be highly sought after...</p>

<p>I already have my butt-kissing remarks prepared for the recruiters. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Slipper, this Vault.com information seems a bit flaky.</p>

<p>for instance taking a quick look at that list above, one would believe that Brown is ineffective in getting their grads into consulting..., however, some of my closest friends who went to Brown all landed top consulting jobs at:</p>

<ul>
<li>BCG</li>
<li>McKinsey</li>
<li>Bain</li>
<li>Mercer</li>
<li>etc. (many with multiple offers) </li>
</ul>

<p>lastly, many of them (who have stayed) are fairly senior now and, as an experienced professional, you can appreciate just how important it is to have people on the inside making sure that their fellow alums get a fair shake.</p>

<p>i can't believe that things have changed that drastically since that time...</p>

<p>Continuing the "Brown" example, let's take a look at the Big 3:</p>

<p>Bain:
<a href="http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=11&page_id=5%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bain.com/bainweb/join_bain/school_popup.asp?school_id=11&page_id=5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>BCG:
<a href="http://www.bcg.com/careers/bcg_on_campus/AreaSelection/school_calendar.jsp?ID=90&data=%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bcg.com/careers/bcg_on_campus/AreaSelection/school_calendar.jsp?ID=90&data=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>McK:
<a href="http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/mckoncampus/brown.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/mckoncampus/brown.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The above would contradict any indication that just 1 major consulting firm recruits at Brown - I'm not sure what "core" means, but if you have direct representatives, specific recruiting/resume dates and deadlines (with specific locations/buildings at your specific school) - that's "recruiting" in my book.</p>

<p>Perhaps vault.com is off in their data? In the end the point is that the Ivies and other elites dominate in this type of recruiting, over many of the so called "top ranked" business schools.</p>

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In the end the point is that the Ivies and other elites dominate in this type of recruiting, over many of the so called "top ranked" business schools.

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<p>in that we are in full agreement.</p>