<p>Can anyone here put forward a legitimate, convincing argument for why Wharton is better than Stanford for an econ/finance geared undergrad?</p>
<p>Wharton is the number one undergrad school for business and especially for finance. To put it in short terms: Wall Street comes from Wharton. You'll have the best recruitment options and best chances at an amazing grad school if you go to Wharton.</p>
<p>no if you need to be convinced, you don't belong here!
go bask in the glory of stanford rejects lol</p>
<p>Well GimmeStanford, from your location it looks like you've been accepted EA. If that's the case shouldn't you wait until you hear from Wharton before asking this question?</p>
<p>haven't applied yet, I'm trying to decide if I want to</p>
<p>So, you lied about your information? You'll fit perfectly on Wall Street!</p>
<p>What? I didn't lie about anything, I haven't applied to Wharton yet and I'm debating it. I just got into Stanford SCEA....</p>
<p>so when barclays capital had their on-campus recruiting presentation, the president of the firm personally came down to talk to the assembled prospective applicants.</p>
<p>he said, in a nutshell, that penn is their top priority in recruiting; they come here first because they think that we're the best.</p>
<p>but from another standpoint, you should consider where you want to work after graduation; if you want to be in new york vs. on the west coast - several firms tend to recruit closer to where they have a stronger presence</p>
<p>tenebrousfire that is one of the most awesome pieces of information i have gotten off this site. go penn!</p>
<p>^^tenebrous, do the recruiting opportunities extend to SEAS students as well? I'm asking b/c it would seem that is the case from the student surveys, but I'm guessing those are students who take many Wharton courses to supplement those pertaining to their major.</p>
<p>define "better."</p>
<p>the quality of life at stanford is hard to beat, if that's what you mean.</p>
<p>But what tennbrousfire said is what the Deutsche Bank recruiter said as well. I quote (from memory) what their recruiter told the forum: "For Wall Street, Wharton is the first, and in many cases the only, place we go."</p>
<p>He went on to later say: "Look if you're from Wharton, i KNOW you know your accounting, for example. If you're from another college...ehhhh. I'll have to make sure in the interview."</p>
<p>What he says doesn't ALWAYS apply (in interviews, Wharton kids will still get technical questions), but firms do seem to give us the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>If you're looking to get into finance for a career, you can't compare (Wharton wins). If you're an entrepreneur looking to start your own business (especially tech related), go to Stanford. Also, I would caution you to pick a school just because of the recruiting. It's a cliche that most kids here want to work in investment banking and I guarantee you half of them don't know anything about it or even why they really want to do it. But what I and tenebrousfire said is true (Wall Street loves wharton recruits)</p>
<p>I would also say what we learn here is more practical than pure economic theory; you're mandated to take things like Finance (2 semesters), Accounting (2 semesters), an Operations class where you learn Excel, Visual Basic, etc. (test questions are like "Minimize the driving distance of a fleet of trucks from your warehouse in state A to the final destination in state B while making delivery stops in states C, D, E, F, G.). </p>
<p>Also, check out this article: (Meet</a> Your New Recruits: They Want to Eat Your Lunch). It's on clubs that other top schools run. Notice, however, that they focus only on schools that do not have undergraduate business programs (Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia). We have everything those schools have and more, in terms of caliber of students, clubs, etc.</p>
<p>I can't REALLY compare, but I do think that the average Wharton kid is more "plugged in" to the world of business than the average student. The environment here is very good for people who love business.</p>
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<p>nj<em>azn</em>premed: recruiting opportunities do extend to engineers, but in a different way and not nearly as much (at least in what I have seen). I do, however, remember that UBS had a program in their ibank that recruited ONLY from M&T. They took 11 kids.</p>
<p>Think about that for a second: M&T has like 60 kids in the entire program (aggregate of all 4 class, frosh to seniors). Divide that by 4 equals 15. 11/15 kids into that UBS program, all from M&T.</p>
<p>JML,</p>
<p>i thought M&T was 50 per grade?</p>
<p>in order to be competitive with whartonites, non-whartonites have to display coursework / knowledge of business that would allow them to be effective at their position.</p>
<p>as such, for more quantitative stuff, a math major or econ major would be fine, as would be systems engineering, for example</p>
<p>for like consulting, you could have other majors too - i'm fine for consulting as a bioengineer with the engineering entrepreneurship minor, as are computer science kids, chemical engineers... and even health and society kids, for example.</p>
<p>but in the end, you need to have the ability to answer those interview questions properly, and if you have no idea of the concepts, then you aren't going to do well</p>
<p>u mad, OP?</p>
<p>Just because you got into Stanford EA doesn't mean you'll get into Wharton RD. It would have made more sense for you to have made this thread after getting into Wharton.</p>
<p>not only just answer the interview questions, but DO that stuff, for 12 hours a day</p>
<p>JML, you've been great about getting me good Wharton info, so thank you.
kclee, I'm not mad, not sure why I would be</p>
<p>I don't think I'll be applying to Wharton, I love Stanford just too much and it would be a waste of an application, whether I got in or not. </p>
<p>Thanks to everyone though.</p>
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Think about that for a second: M&T has like 60 kids in the entire program (aggregate of all 4 class, frosh to seniors). Divide that by 4 equals 15. 11/15 kids into that UBS program, all from M&T.
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You're right, a2npersuas2n. It's about 60 per year. And yes, sometimes recruiters have relationships with the joint degree programs through their advisors, so they give presentations for and specifically recruit students from those programs.</p>
<p>Also, GimmeStanford, if you want to study theoretical economics, or have any doubts at all about going into finance, go to Stanford. If you're dead set on finance, especially banking, or want to make sure you're in the best position to have that option in the future, apply to Penn.</p>
<p>Go to Stanford. I would kill to be in your shoes. Giving up the opportunity to be a part of heaven on earth for four years would be the biggest regret of your life.</p>
<p>Congratulations. Make the most of it.</p>
<p>Stanford is a crashing bore. I picked Penn (CAS) instead and I loved every minute of it.</p>