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Off the charts? Your counselors sound seriously misinformed. There are applicants that are far more impressive than you and I doubt any of them would claim that their chances are " off the charts". Anyways your entire post provides anecdotal support to an inherently flawed argument which for some reason you choose to blindly continue.</p>
<p>You statements are all worthless rhetoric and no proof. I don’t care if you can write pretty English sentences that may or may not make you seem like you know what you are talking about. What exactly is my “inherently flawed argument”? Why does my college coucilor seem mis-informed? The only possible bit of information that I actually provided to you that you can “use against me” is my SAT score–which isn’t even close to bad. You have proved nothing, and I am suprised that you manage to do well in any class that requires to you prove anything (perhaps History or English… only about half of your high school curriculum). I have offered substantial evidence that shows I have a good chance of getting into Cornell in the context of my high school. You have no idea what my high school is like, and offer no counter-arguments to anything I have said. You ignored–or overlooked–about 95% of what I just said in my last post. If you think a bunch of fancy words and unsupported statements (e.g. saying I’m wrong and delusional and giving no specific evidence as to why) can win arguments for you, you are sadly mistaken.</p>
<p>Lol Jersey</p>
<p>Dont feed the ■■■■■■! (aka Jersey)</p>
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Barring any significant hook or truly top notch academics, not many people can or should claim that they have a “good chance” at Cornell.
Obviously you’ve failed to comprehend the point I was trying to get across. I am not attacking your personal academic stats, rather your assumption that you have a “good chance” of admission.
You have offered anecdotal evidence with nothing “substantial” to actually support it. Perhaps if you had linked a picture of your school’s Naviance graph for Cornell, you could claim that you have actually offered “substantial evidence”.
Obviously my last 3 posts in this thread were not counter-arguments, good observation. And I laugh at the hypocrisy of your latter statement. Earlier in this thread, you attack me for caring too much about standardized tests when nothing I have said in this thread would suggest or support such a claim and I respond by telling you so. You go on to ignore every part of the post except the last sentence.</p>
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Yes chendrix, I’m a ■■■■■ because I’m telling an applicant that the school is far more selective than he apparently thinks.</p>
<p>No, you’re a ■■■■■ because you say things to get a rise out of people. </p>
<p>I actually got in to Cornell and currently attend (something you can’t claim). I have also helped many a student get into this school as well, and I would have to say I V’s chances are GOOD.</p>
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I responded to his post not to get a rise out of him, but to remind him that Cornell is quite selective. I see you’ve interpreted it a slightly different way, and while I admit I was combative, it was only after his ad hominem attacks that I was somehow “obsessed with standardized test taking”. </p>
<p>If in your terms, his chances are “good”, would you care to assess mine?
Around 8-15 kids from my school (~400 students) are accepted to Cornell every year. The average accepted SAT and GPA according to Naviance are 2200 and 94 respectively. Our GPA is calculated on a scale of 0-100. </p>
<p>Brief summary of stats: 2400 SAT, 2 800 SAT IIs (2 more scores coming back this Thursday, almost 100% positive 800s), 98 GPA, Top 5 in Class, 3 Varsity Sports since Freshman Year, President of a Club, VP/Co-Founder of another. Applying to either AEM in CALS or CAS.</p>
<p>AEM in CALS is a crapshoot. Less than 10% acceptance rate. CAS you probably have a better chance at. Any chance you are good enough at a sport to talk to the coach?</p>
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I am asking in the context of the chances you provided to IV. You said his chances are “good”, so how are mine?</p>
<p>probably RD to CALS communication :)</p>
<p>@nitestriker: same predicament here, ED at Cornell COE or EA at MIT? decisions, decisions</p>
<p>I will say I regret not going ED somewhere binding… Stanford REA was a big mistake.</p>
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<p>I think I’ll probably go with MIT EA. MIT seems to be better since its stronger in science and engineering. </p>
<p>I’m not saying that the COE isn’t a good school. I’ll still be able to participate in the activities that I’d like to do even if I end up going to Cornell. </p>
<p>Hopefully, things will work out in the future :)</p>
<p>I wouldn’t make the statement that MIT is stronger in Science and Engineering.</p>
<p>Cornell and MIT have different focuses in their sciences, but their engineering programs are equally strong theoretically and practically.</p>
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<p>That’s true. Technically, I’ll end up learning the same concepts of my preferred field of study at each school. </p>
<p>I guess that I’ll just have to figure out which place I prefer to be in. This is a really tough decision :(</p>
<p>Chendrix care to respond to my query on the previous page?</p>
<p>If his are good, yours are middle of the road. </p>
<p>He’s triple legacy, going for CAS.
You’re unhooked, going for AEM. </p>
<p>You have better raw statistics, but are also going for a broad appeal major where you compete against varsity athletes who will be playing for Cornell.</p>
<p>The rest is up to essays and recommendations.</p>
<p>As I’ve stated before, I’m applying to either CAS or AEM. You seem to have conveniently ignored that. Also, I’m a bit confused as why you consider triple legacy to be a hook. A Cornell admissions officer stated in an information session that on a scale of Very Important/Important/Considered, the factor of alumni relations is only “considered”. This very statement is supported by the data Cornell provides to the College Board. Meanwhile these “raw statistics” you speak of all fall under the “very important” factors category. It seems your focus in admissions standards seems to be different from what Cornell states is it’s standards. </p>
<p>Don’t worry though chendrix, I asked you to hypothetically chance me not out of actual interest of what you judge to be my chances, but only to further affirm that you have some sort of personal distaste for me.</p>
<p>FWIW, as an alum it is the common perception that legacy is a significant tip factor at Cornell, for otherwise competitive applicants who apply ED. I know several Cornell alums whose kids have attended, and none whose kids were rejected. But probably those parents don’t talk about that, clearly it happens as well, and with increasing frequency no doubt.</p>
<p>The thing is, as these colleges become more and more selective, holistically-based admissions results become increasingly uncertain. This was brought home to me some years ago when my D1 was wait-listed at several colleges that had average stats well below hers. and when I saw my friend’s disappointment when his bright legacy daughter was turned down at Yale.</p>
<p>Stats need to be competitive, but IMO everyone has their best chance when their life story, read through activities, essays, recommendations, courses, etc. makes it clear that the college they are applying to is a perfect match with their interests, abilities and objectives, and they really want to attend there. And if they do attend, they will be an asset to the life of the university community.</p>
<p>That’s alright Jersey, I freely admit I have a personal distaste for you. You sound like a pompous as$, and your Location of “Where you want to be '15” only adds to that.</p>
<p>You are a high school student who has no clue what he is talking about. You “hear things from admissions officers” and “read things on a website.” I know how many hundreds of students who go here? Your judgement of admissions criteria is based on the “importance” list published by the collegeboard? Mine is based on talking to my peers about what their academic and extracurricular life was like in highschool.</p>
<p>Face it dude, you are angry that you don’t need your stats to get into a top school. Once you qualify academically, the rest is ALL SUBJECTIVE. And guess what? If you come off as a pompous as$ in your interviews and in your essays, none of your perfect stats will matter.</p>
<p>On this board we try to be supportive of one another, and you ripped into some dude because you felt he was a little too overconfident in his chances. The only thing you managed to expose was your own insecurity and immaturity.</p>