My judgment of admissions criteria is based off of information provided by Cornell admissions officers which is further supported by the information Cornell publishes on the College Board. I’m inclined to believe that admissions officers provide the right information concerning their college. </p>
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Perhaps I would be angry if I was already rejected. Considering the fact that I’m only a high school student as you have pointed out, I don’t understand why I would be angry for having “my stats”.
Please avoid spreading the common misconception that their is some sort of “academic qualification cutoff” beyond which all objective academic stats are weighted equally. </p>
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I fail to see how I’ve shown my “insecurity” through posts on this thread.</p>
It’s better to know the truth rather than go into admissions complacently and then be rejected. You only get one chance to apply to a college - there are never repeats so you can learn from your mistakes - so it’s in your best interest to never be overconfident. </p>
<p>Also, there are a lot of things that I V is misunderstanding. One thing is that the averages that Naviance shows are never too accurate. There are always people who pull down the averages because they are outliers, and often times there are many more outliers on the bottom side of the spectrum rather than the top. URMs, girls that apply for COE, and similar hooks can change what your school’s average may be. (Princeton and MIT for my school has an average SAT for acceptance under 2100, but so few people get in that the average is pulled down by URM/athletes.) Instead, you should look at the RD Threads on CC for a more accurate outlook on admissions. </p>
<p>Still, I can’t make a judgement about your thoughts on your chances for Cornell because you simply have not provided enough information. Your GPA, SAT IIs, ECs, Race, and Gender are significantly important in addition to your SAT scores. But while a triple-legacy could be positive, Jersey13 is right by asserting that there are thousands of applicants - many similar to yourself - and your chances, from what you have provided, are not as high as you think. </p>
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<p>I’m probably applying EA to Cornell, and I would say I have decent, but not great, chances. Can’t wait till admissions season. I think I’ll apply to like 8 colleges EA and maybe 5-10 colleges RD. That’s a pretty big estimate though. And I’m still not sure if I want to do ED…to anywhere.</p>
<p>There are most certainly outliers on the Naviance profile for Cornell. Luckily, my “dot” is located near all of the non-outliers (sorry I didn’t provide this information before), so I do not have a superficial impression of my chances. I am, however, aware that Naviance is not a completely accurate tool in predicting one’s chances of admission because there are many factors that it does not assess. I am also aware that being a legacy means nothing unless one is competitive within the normal applicant pool. Luckily, I am a competitive applicant–though I’ll admit, certainly not in the very top tier (valedictorians/2300+ SATs). What will catch the admissions officer reading my application’s eyes, unlike many normal applicants, is that my mother went to CAS, my father went to COE (engineering), and my grandfather went to ILR. While there are many applicants with “hooks” often more impressive than mine, most applicants won’t have any hooks at all. Because I am a competitive applicant–as indicated by what I have seen on Naviance and my high school’s great success at getting people into Cornell (35% acceptance rate)–who will be applying ED and has some form of hook, I think that my chances are “good” (which is far from thinking “I’m in”). </p>
<p>I completely agree with your statement “it’s in your best interest to never be overconfident.” I may have come across that way in some of the posts I made because I had not fully presented all of my “information” and/or made my point completely clear. I couldn’t possibly explain everything about myself or what my high school is like on a thread like this, and I’m sure you are completely aware of that. </p>
<p>quote- “It’s better to know the truth rather than go into admissions complacently and then be rejected.”
I also agree with what you say here. Overall, I know that people far more impressive than me are rejected and people far less so are accepted–and vice versa. Cornell is a highly selective institution and for anyone, no matter how impressive they are, to think that they are automatically in would be foolish. That said, in applying ED to Cornell, I know it is very possible that I could be rejected. It is also very possible that I could be accepted. I, along with everyone else, will have to wait for December 15th to see whether all of this speculation is accurate. Good luck man.</p>
<p>Hey Jersey, why don’t you do us all a favor and stop making immature and confrontational posts on the Cornell threads. Chendrix probably hasn’t responded to your posts because he is sick of communicating with you. He has already made his point and yet you continue to pointlessly berate him, and even taunt him–as shown by your post above–like a 4th grader (yea, go ahead and quote me on that one, see what I care). Stop wasting his–and everybody elses–time.</p>
<p>Seeing as I had no problems with Chendrix until he chose to make a confrontational post directed towards me, I’ll disregard your first sentence. Furthermore, he responded with a rebuttal to every single one of my posts except the last, so I’m inclined to believe that the assumption made in your second sentence is false. He made his point that what I had heard about Cornell admissions was wrong, and I responded giving him my sources which I believe to be quite credible. </p>
<p>Anyways, I don’t really care to argue with you, seeing as you have already conceded the fact that you sounded overconfident (unjustifiably so I might add) assessing your chances in your last post, which was exactly the point I was making in my argument against you.</p>
<p>Wrong Jersey, so incredibly wrong. You did not say I was being overconfident, you said my chances were “not good at all”. I did not “concede” to your “argument” because if you had actually read what I had said completely, you would have seen that I still believe my chances are “good”. Do not put yourself under the false impression that I in any way agreed with what you said. In my last post I was addressing hotinpursuit, who actually sounded reasonable, not you. He was understandable, you were a pompous a$$hole. You have accomplished nothing constructive on this thread. It was originally designated to be a thread for people to discuss what college at Cornell they intended to apply to and when they wanted to apply (ED/RD). You have twisted it into a self-serving battleground to try and boost your ego and degrade others’ (and if you disagree with this and want to quote/rebute it, take a look back at your posts and see what you sound like before you do so), and you seem to be under the impression that you are the only one who can win. I, also, “don’t really care to argue with you” because you are an extremely unpleasant person to talk with. Once again, stop making posts on this forum until you can realize that the point of the Cornell forums is not to talk down to people, but to discuss things constructively and reasonably.</p>
<p>With complete and utter neutrality, I would like to know…is it really necessary for us to be arguing and bashing one another on a thread where most, if not many, of us are in hopes of being accepted to Cornell come 2015 decisions? With our mutual goal in mind, is it very difficult to simply have good-natured conversations concerning our apprehensions of what’s to come, and whatnot? Surely, we can learn more from each other this way. </p>
<p>Please do keep in mind that nothing is concrete or set in stone yet. Our fellow “competitors” do not know whether or not we will be accepted, rejected, or wait-listed. Of course, they can make judgments and assumptions. However, it only comes down to whether or not we let them affect us. </p>
<p>In the end, no one but ourselves will know our own merit and the extent to which our ability will lead us. With all due respect, I believe that we should simply disregard those who are out to hurt, discourage, and put us down. </p>
<p>Ultimately, it’s simply ourselves who can have an idea as to what the possible future will entail. Not your neighbor. Not the poster above you, below you, or the poster after that. And certainly not this one.</p>
<p>Jersey youre way too worked up about this, ur a genius and ull get in anywhere as a tri varsity athlete also. But IV will get into Cornell simply because he is a TRIPLE LEGACY. Its not fair, his stats alone wouldn’t get him in but its the way the admissions process works.</p>
I’ll assist you in actually comprehending my previous posts.</p>
<p>Example A:
I’m not sure how you can interpret this other than “Don’t be overconfident with your chances because Cornell is extremely selective”</p>
<p>Example B:
In other words: Don’t be so confident and assured of an acceptance.</p>
<p>Example C:
Does this need explanation? </p>
<p>Example D:
Further clarifying what you seem to view as a personal attack rather than a warning to not be overconfident. </p>
<p>I hope that will suffice as a rebuttal.</p>
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What do you believe you sound like in saying your credentials are “off the charts”?</p>
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Constructive criticism is quite a powerful tool, one which you seem unable to understand. In addition, I don’t see where I was unreasonable in this thread. Harshly critical, yes, but unreasonable?</p>
<p>I, too, am applying for the class of 2015. I will most likely be doing ED for CAS. Probably an English or Psychology major. In terms of stats and whatnot, I will, for the most part, not be the most exemplary candidate- far from it, in fact. I have adequate stats and probably deserve a place within the norm. Nevertheless, I have genuine interest in the school and I suppose that I may as well try. My chances are not particularly high and I have much skepticism as to whether or not I will be accepted. Most likely not and that’s not even from pessimism, just an honest evaluation of my own merit. Of course, I’ll still be hopeful all the way out until December- whenever decisions come out.</p>
<p>With all this said, I wish all my fellow competitors the best of luck.</p>
<p>Everyone - please try and keep the thread on focus - this is supposed to be a thread where we gather collaboratively not to compete aggressively against one another. </p>
<p>“Girls applying to COE”. </p>
<p>Sigh one of the few occasions I wish I was a female.</p>
<p>I apologize IndianOptimist, but Jersey13 has made a conscious choice not to “gather collaboratively”, so I have several things to say. Sorry for the interruption. </p>
<p>I’ll assist you (jersey) in actually comprehending my post. I did not say my chances were off the charts, my advisor did; I am not pompous at all. Once again, saying I have good chances does not mean I am overconfident, because the fact that I have good chances is true. Being overconfident in this situation would mean that I am under a false impression of what my chances are. Many people I know and multiple people on this thread–some of whom are far more knowledgable than you about Cornell admissions–have agreed that my chances of getting into Cornell are “good”. Therefore, I am not being overconfident. By the way, you weren’t giving me constructive criticism at all, all you did initially was rudely say my chances “were not good at all”. That is not constructive in any way. Giving me advice on how to improve my chances rather than saying they weren’t good would have been “constructive”.</p>
<p>I don’t feel like quoting everything I said in the last post but from what I can tell, you have ignored the last three quarters of it. The only part you addressed was the part you felt you could argue–that I was “overconfident”, which isn’t true anyway. If you were in my English class, you would receive an F for only addressing what you felt you wanted to argue (try and quote me on this… but all your last thread talked about was the point I have just proved you wrong on), rather than the entire point. </p>
<p>It is amusing to me how you selectively quote things to create a false illusion of the overall point you/I are/am trying to make and conveniently ignore most of the things I–and now other people–say, just to make yourself sound good. I know it is embarassing for you to be proven wrong on a website that seems to consume an unhealthy portion of your life–you have made over twelve times the posts I have made, yet you joined CC many months after I have–so I can see why you continue to blunder on. Go on, keep going, I know you will never admit that you were wrong because you are afraid that you will look “weak”. But why don’t you follow the advice of what people on this thread have already told you several times and stop arguing with me. You started this conflict by saying something that was completely unjustified–that my chances were “not good at all” for getting into the school that I love. If that wasn’t meant to be confrontational, then I don’t know what is. I am right, you are wrong. My chances of getting into Cornell are good, as supported by multiple people on this thread, and I was therefore not overconfident in thinking my chances were good because it is the truth. I am not delusional or “quixotic”, you are (or certainly appear to be on this thread). End of story.</p>
<p>Notice how you continue to repeat the same arguments over and over, deriding my “quoting”, while providing no support for your argument whatsoever. The only person who agreed with you was Chendrix, who did so because of his personal vendetta against me. Neither the length or your post nor your ad hominem attacks make your argument any more sound and I too find it humorous that you seem to think that by claiming that you have “won”, the claim will become a factual statement. Please provide an example of one of the quotes I used in my previous post that I “selectively” quoted to change
the meaning. If you can’t, you can always resort to attacking my “obsession with test scores”, my time spent on this forum or claiming that I would receive a failing grade in your english class. You seem to be particularly adept at ad hominem attacks.</p>
I think I’ll apply to like 8 colleges EA and maybe 5-10 colleges RD. That’s a pretty big estimate though. And I’m still not sure if I want to do ED…to anywhere.</p>