<p>The ILR school is about 50% in-state and 50% out of state. The primary concentrations within the school are Organization Behavior, Human Resource Management and Labor Relations. Upon graduation, most students do one of three things:</p>
<p>Go to Law school
Get a job with a Consulting firm or an Investment Bank
Get a job as a Human Resources Generalist or Specialist (this is the most commonoption)</p>
<p>I'd take a little different approach here ... both Michigan and Cornell are terrific schools and in the abstract you can not go wrong at either school. I would focus on which is a better fit for you ... Ann Arbor and Ithaca are both college towns but Ann Arbor is mych bigger ... while Cornell is the largest IVY Michigan is much bigger ... Michigan has big-time college sports and Big Ten school spirit while Cornell has the IVY league lower temperature wider variety approach to sports. If Cornell seems like a better fit for you is it worth the extra cost? Only you can answer that. If money is not object, go to whichever school seems to be the best fit. If money is a dominant issue go to Michigan and have a great time at a great school. If money is somewhere in the middle only you can decide how much you can/will pay for a better fit!</p>
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Xanatos, that's SOOO BIASED.
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<p>Just as biased as Alexandre apparently is.</p>
<p>I think part of it is that I'm really unsure about what I want to do with my life after college. ILR sounds like an extremely good, specialized program. Those jobs that Alexandre talked about are also pretty cool but I'm not sure I want to be in Human Resources... Would it be a decent school for business law? And what is a Human Resource Specialist/Generalist?</p>
<p>How are on-campus recruiting opportunities at U-M compared to Cornell?</p>
<p>Recruiting is extremely active at both campuses. You really cannot go wrong between those two schools. It really boils down to which school fits your personality and your objectives better.</p>
<p>Human Resources is a field that deals with the identifying, recruiting, training, compensating, motivating, retaining and promoting of a company's workforce. Of course, this is a very simplistic definition, but you get the point. There are five primary functions in the HR domain:
1) Staffing and recruiting
2) Benefits and Compensation
3) Employee and Labor Relations
4) Organization Development and Behavior
5) Training and Development</p>
<p>A generalist handles all facets of Human Resources for a group of employees. A specialist usually focuses on just one of the 5 components listed above. Most HR professionals start as Generalist and work their way into a Specialist position.</p>
<p>Err... is there any money in that?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot by the way. I really appreciate your willingness in answering all of my questions.</p>
<p>Yes, there is money in it. Average starting salaries for Cornell ILR graduates, bonuses not included, are in the $45,000-$55,000 for undergrads and $60,000-$80,000 for grads.</p>
<p>Do you have access to similar figures for U-M? :)</p>
<p>Blarney, professional and graduate school opportunities for Cornell and Michigan graduates are identical. Michigan undergrads, depending on GPA and major, start with salaries ranging from $40,000-$60,000. Stop worrying about the insignificant details. Figure out which school is best for you.</p>
<p>Michigan isn't a school...it's a state. Outside the east coast, I don't think many people care about it. Cornell is pretty much known throughout the world...especially china, korea, india, taiwan...plus, an ivy-league education never hurt anybody. I know plenty of people that would kill to have a cornell+any other ivy name. Education-wise though, i think you get almost the same education everywhere. I doubt any school is radically different from any other, the only difference is quality of students, faculty, name-recognition etc.</p>
<p>Golubb, you are completely wrong. You obviously know very little about universities. To limit Michigan's reputation to the Midwest or the East Coast is very incorrect.</p>
<p>hehehe... just had a fight with my dad, he said that HR is a ******** profession. Guess I won't be going to ILR lol...</p>
<p>"Golubb, you are completely wrong. You obviously know very little about universities. To limit Michigan's reputation to the Midwest or the East Coast is very incorrect"</p>
<p>No, I'm dead on. Michigan has zero impact in the west coast, and negative impact internationally. It simply doesn't have any reputation outside its area...but it's a good place to get an education at a cheap price.</p>
<p>I am on the west coast and Michigan is as well regarded as Cornell if not more so. Cornell is the least known Ivy.</p>
<p>Golubb, like I said, you know very little about Michigan and universities. </p>
<p>First of all, Michigan is not a place to get a "cheap education". For out of staters, Michigan is as expensive as private universities.</p>
<p>Secondly, Michigan's reputation internationally is very strong. I would say only half a dozen American universities have a better reputation than Michigan internationally speaking. Of course, I am not talking about poor Asian, Latin American and African countries. I am talking in countries that matter on a political and econimic scale, like France, Japan, England, Germany, Spain etc... Almost every international ranking places Michigan among the top 15 or top 20 universities in the US.</p>
<p>"Cornell is pretty much known throughout the world...especially china, korea, india, taiwan...plus, an ivy-league education never hurt anybody."</p>
<p>I disagree. I am from India, and I think Michigan is more well-known there. We don't care about Ivy League status, sports, selectivity etc. Only raw academic excellence matters.</p>
<p>Also, the average person probably can't name any Ivy League university except Harvard and Yale. Cornell isn't as famous as people on this board seem to think.</p>
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<p>Wow, golubb_u, thank you for your valued input. :)</p>
<p>"Cornell is pretty much known throughout the world...especially china, korea, india, taiwan..</p>
<p>This certainly matches my own impression.</p>
<p>While I was there I met a larger number of foreign students. Most that I knew were studying agriculture, engineering or architecture. Most of the foreign students were sponsored by their governments I think. Just offhand, I specifically recall students from: England, Dominican Republic, Panama, Syria, Lebanon, Taiwan, India. I took an engineering class with a fellow whose father owned (? or ran?) a big power utility company in India.</p>
<p>The president of the Republic of China (Taiwan) is a Cornell graduate.</p>
<p>Hu Shih, a Chinese academic, philosopher, and ROC ambassador, was a Cornell graduate.</p>
<p>The principals in the renowned architecture firm Hariri & Hariri came to Cornell from Iran to study architecture.</p>
<p>The chairman of India's wealthiest business group is a Cornell graduate.</p>
<p>So I don't think this comment is too far off-base, myself.</p>
<p>I don't know anything about the U. of Michigan's international presence.</p>
<p>Approximately 1/2 of the class in my graduate studies at USC were foreigners (mostly Indian & Asian). Usually they are there because their government is paying for it as well. Of course most people will say "USC has only a regional appeal." Make of it what you want.</p>
<p>It depends on what criteria we use.</p>
<p>For prestige (i.e. selectivity/student body + stupid Ivy association): Cornell, it commands more 'wow'.
For reputation in Academic excellence: tie
Internationally both are similarly recognized.</p>
<p>Hence, I would say Cornell in general has an edge over Michigan, but if you could get a scholarship to Michigan, the difference is outweighted by the funding.</p>