<p>Am a parent who has been accepted to above and is trying to iron out a decision with him.
Son is considering Chemical or Biomedical Engineering. We are not eligible for Financial Aid.
He is not sure of post-grad studying or immediate job search after undergraduate.
Recommendations on which school for the intended major and any insights on post undergraduate desirability by post graduate schools or industry would be greatly appreciated.
Though financial issues are considered we are really looking for future stability, occupationally and educationally.</p>
<p>TIA</p>
<p>First of all, congratulations. </p>
<p>I went to Cooper myself, and what I can say is that its good at what it specializes in, but terrible at what it does not.
since your son is interested in chemical/ biomed, i would recommend either cornell or brown. Cooper does offer a bio course, but they dont have biomed, which is a problem should your son change his mind / decide to go the biomed route. They are very limited, so its only a good option if you are certain that you want to do one of their four majors (chemical, mechanical, electrical, civil).
I understand that it is free, which is a big pull (it definitely was for me!). however, it also has other drawbacks.
- Its incredibly challenging. its one of the toughest programs out there, period. you sometimes spend sleepless days and nights either studying or working on projects.<br>
2)There is no “college experience” or social life. its a very small school, and most of the engineering kids are not going to be having too much fun due to reason #1
- like i said above, it is limited and they dont offer biomedical engineering</p>
<p>I recommend going to one of the Ivy’s (cornell or brown, your pick). In either school (both are ranked similarly) you get great education and the networking that Ivy league schools get you. They also have a greater variety of engineering majors, should you change your mind and they offer biomed.
I dont know that much about rutgers, but ive met people who went to cornell and brown and they are just as well off as the cooper grads. The two ivy’s are also larger and have more of a campus life and are not as demanding. If hes a normal kid, he will enjoy college much more there. </p>
<p>As for the high tuition costs, hopefully the job you get will help pay that off.</p>
<p>How would you assess postgraduate study opportunities based on classmates of yours that pursued them from Cooper Union? Also were the Chemical engineers happy with there experience curriculum, etc?</p>
<p>Net price at each, and how much does it matter?</p>
<p>Surprised that none of the usual chemical engineering suspects (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Texas, Delaware, etc.) are on the list.</p>
<p>Rutgers Honors Engineering (Full Tuition Scholarship Room and Board 8-10K?)
Cooper Union (Same Room and Board 10-15K?)
Brown 55-60K total
Cornell 55-60k total</p>
<p>Cooper Union suggests a budget of significantly more than $15,000 per year:
[Budget</a> Guide | Cooper Union](<a href=“http://www.cooper.edu/admissions/financial-aid/budget-guide]Budget”>Cost of Attendance | The Cooper Union)</p>
<p>just starting to accumalate more info on school… was just noticed of acceptance yesterday
Thanks for heads up!!</p>
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ALL of the colleges above provide you future stability, occupationally and educationally IF he does well. I would say, go visit each of the schools and decide if the Ivy fees are worth it. Had a cousin at Cornell and another one at Rutgers. 5 years later, they both are tremendously successful. Brown I believe is more open curriculum so keep that in mind.</p>
<p>Brown does have humanities and social studies breadth requirements in engineering, due to ABET accreditation requirements. However, it appears that they have fewer than for engineering at most other schools.</p>
<p>We had visited all schools prior to applying… He well be visiting Cornell and Brown again next week. My wife has corrected me in re: rutgers engineering
Presidential scholarship is inclusive of room and board.
Are the Ivies worth the expense over the reduced price of Rutgers and Cooper?</p>
<p>If the goal is to work in engineering, unlikely.</p>
<p>If the goal is to work in investment banking or management consulting, possibly, if you are fully willing to pay the price without unreasonable debt.</p>
<p>(Yes, I know that every NJ student wants to go anywhere but Rutgers, but Rutgers is a fine school, and the price is right at a full ride.)</p>
<p>So… Cooper union vs rutgers?</p>
<p>If cost is not a big deal between Cooper Union and Rutgers, the “fit” aspects between Cooper Union and Rutgers are very different. Cooper Union is a small specialty school; if smallness (including small classes) and location are desired, and the student is focused on engineering (won’t change major or want to take more courses in other subjects not in Cooper Union’s specialties), then it may be a good fit. Otherwise, Rutgers may be a better fit.</p>
<p>Note that only Rutgers and Brown out of your list have biomedical engineering, though all have chemical engineering. However, chemical engineering is probably a better major for job prospects at the bachelor’s degree level.</p>
<p>Something worth considering is whether the Rutgers scholarship has a college GPA requirement to keep it; if it is high (like 3.5), consider whether it is affordable even if the scholarship is lost.</p>
<p>He just visited Cornell again on Friday and is now at ADOCH at Brown…On returning from Cornell he has become less enamored by Rutgers and CU. He is presently at Brown and he has expressed that the Brown experience is a lot warmer…friendlier… Maybe it is the structure or content of their Pre-Admit program or maybe the school just connects with him.</p>
<p>I’m looking forward to hearing what he say when he gets home.</p>
<p>Anyone who has experience interviewing engineers …does a Cornell Engineering degree trump a Brown Engineering degree so vastly that I should voice concern if he picks Brown?</p>