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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/723962-cornell-fraternity-sorority-rankings-2009-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/723962-cornell-fraternity-sorority-rankings-2009-a.html</a></p>
<p>^ He goes on and on and on and on</p>
<p>after reading this i can proudly say that i embarassed to go here</p>
<p>C2011 - nothing like having the last word:), it’s even better when it’s on someone else’s forum.</p>
<p>“You do realize that, aside from Dartmouth, Penn is the second biggest party school in the Ivies, right? I mean, whatever selective discussions you need to choose to validate your decision to yourself is fine with me, but your post makes it sound like you believe people at Penn spend their weekend nights contemplating string theory.” </p>
<p>Based on CC posts it doesn’t look like Penn is a very lively place.</p>
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<p>They are too busy considering what they will do with their lives now that financial sector is imploding. I’ve heard a bunch of them are thinking of applying to the Ag School for the program in Animal Husbandry. Nothing like actually having a marketable skill that doesn’t involve monkeying around with fictional numbers in Excel.</p>
<p>I don’t know very much about the sororities or fraternities, as will be obvious by my question, sorry for the ignorance:</p>
<p>About how many members do they each have?</p>
<p>"I bet non-cornellians reading about fraternity/sorority descriptions get the wrong idea "
“after reading this i can proudly say that i embarassed to go here”</p>
<p>Along these lines, I think it’s important to point out, for the benefit of prospective applicants who might be reading this thread, </p>
<p>that most people at Cornell do not live in fraternities and sororities, </p>
<p>and many do not have social mores that involve publicly, or even privately, “rating” groups of their peers.</p>
<p>String theory was not really in vogue when I attended, or I was not advanced enough to learn it, otherwise I would have been one that would have been in Clark Library contemplating it. And I would not be there alone, nor was I then.</p>
<p>Cornell is a big school, it accomodates individuals of many social inclinations. Including both people who like to rate fraternities and sororities and people who want nothing whatsoever to do with fraternities and sororities, much less “rate” them. And both camps are large enough so that people of a given attitude can find their niche there and thrive.</p>
<p>If you’re someone to whom this thread sounds great,well obviously there is something there for you. But for the others to whom this does not seem to paint an appealing picture, please be assured that this is not a reason to pass on Cornell. You are actually in the majority there, by a wide margin.</p>
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The average fraternity will have a pledge class in the range of the mid teens to the low twenties, while average sorority will have one in the mid thirties to low forties. Of course this varies from house to house, based on its reputation, historical size, housing accommodations, etc.</p>
<p>Every sorority this past semester had over 40 people in their pledge class I’m pretty sure.</p>
<p>I think its important to note that the classic stereotypes of houses are just that, they are stereotypes. Most stereotypes are upheld by blind word of mouth. People looking to participate in greek life will find a niche at Cornell. The houses are very diverse and most are not your typical college fraternity or sorority scenes and provide a great college experience. While greek life does run most of the social scene on campus, greeks compose only 33% of the population. Thus, most of the people are content in another scene. </p>
<p>In conclusion, as a member of Cornell’s greek community I can say that I cannot imagine having a better college experience, mostly because I decided to get involved in greek life. That’s just me though. Incoming freshman, go to parties during o-week with a clean slate perception of the houses and make your choices from there. Although I do have to say that while a little crude, the ranking on this thread does provide a decent idea of the general Cornell student perception of the houses. Greek life is fun!</p>
<p>^ So I am wondering this then about the sororities.</p>
<p>If my daughter wants to pledge to one of the houses that is “known” for being mostly rich kids, is she going to be snubbed and not have an iota of a chance because she doesn’t come from a rich family?</p>
<p>Or will she just wish later perhaps that she didn’t get in?</p>
<p>she probably wont get in…or you will have to bear the burden of paying for all these little things and dresses and ****</p>
<p>what was said above is absolutely not true. all of the houses work with kids on financial assistance. no one knows if you arent rich when you pledge and she would definitely have a high chance as long as she fits in/likes the girls… when you have 40 people there is a ton of variety and i would say only 10 or 15 are actually really rich tops. i know plenty of girls in the “rich” houses that arent rich and still love it. the same goes for fraternities. </p>
<p>they will not snub you for not being rich… it may get annoying if a crew of your friends go on an expensive trip together, or all buy new dresses for every social event, but that shouldnt be a deterrent.</p>
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<p>but dont you feel like you wouldnt be able to fully participate? why try to fit in when you can just be yourself outside of a greek house?</p>
<p>my sister was in a “rich girl” sorority over at Syracuse and we don’t have a rich family. she “fit in” with the girls and they didnt NOT talk to her because of her lack of wealth, but i will say it did bring extra stress and pressure to “measure up” when it came to clothes and trips and stuff like that. </p>
<p>eh thats my 2cents :]</p>
<p>So, what I am hearing is that she might have a chance to get in. But once in, she may wish she wasn’t in. Or she might fit in perfect and I may wish (financially) that she didn’t get in.</p>
<p>So, what would be considered the best sorority for a girl to be in that wasn’t full of girls with “way too much $$”</p>
<p>I don’t think I would let social economic issue determine which sorority your daughter should join. What’s important is if your D’s personality fits a particular sorority, and if she’ll like the girls in the house. I think every house requires its new pledges to live in the house sophmore year. Imagine living with 40 people you don’t like very much. My daughter’s sorority has a fairly good mix of girls. Wealthier girls will go on trips together or rent nicer apartments junior/senior years together. They will have new outfit for every event. Girls with smaller budget will end up borrowing shoes and dresses from their friends, and I don’t think it’s a big deal for them.</p>
<p>My daughter had some misgiving about Greek life because it is exclusive. But she feels there has been more pros than cons for her. She has made some great friends, a lot of support from them. She was the major event planner this past year. It was a great experience for her - managing budget, negotiating contract, interacting with the administration, resolving conflicts…She said to be a house president is like running a corporation. It is an experience that’s hard to get anywhere at their age.</p>
<p>thanks oldfort.</p>
<p>that is kind of what I was hoping to hear. Ultimately I know she is going to make the decision of which to join and hopefully it will be a good fit so they will want her. The rest we can deal with.</p>
<p>Hopefully she will want to take on some of the roles available, but I know she will also be on the lookout for great research/internship opportunities as well, so i don’t want her to get overloaded either.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is at Cornell there are some kids that have a limitless expense account from mom and dad, some in the middle, and some below that. </p>
<p>In a big sorority (40 people/year) you will have all of that. In my fraternity there were guys who would go out to expensive restaurants every weekend, spend 200 at the bar every thurs/fri/sat, but that didn’t stop kids who couldnt do that from being friends with them. Generally people understand that they have more flexibility than others in terms of money.</p>
<p>Your daughter needs to join a place where she fits in the most… if she wants to join a sorority, she will pick the house that is most similar to her personality. Remember these rankings are all generalizations.
She may feel pressure to dress a certain way, but from what I have seen, most girls are able to have their own style for their means and be just fine.</p>
<p>No one will care about how much money you have. I know people who do not have much money at all and are in “top/rich house”. It really doesn’t matter. What matters is how well you mesh with the people and feel comfortable around them. No one will ever call you out about having too little money.</p>