<p>Just look at this link
<a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php</a></p>
<p>Cornell sent 44 kids to Harvard Law which is really good</p>
<p>I see 40, not 44. Am I missing something? 40 is good but by per capita numbers Cornell shows a need for improvement alongside its peer institutions.</p>
<p>If you compare the ratio, of say, the smallest ivy, Dartmouth with 31 and 1/4th the class size of Cornell, Cornell is in need of improvement</p>
<p>Here are the per capita figures:</p>
<p>Harvard (.0349)
Yale (.0237)
Princeton (.0137)
Stanford (.0136)
Duke (.0088)
Brown (.0087)
Dartmouth (.0075)
Columbia (.0061)
Williams (.0061)
Rice (.0056)
Penn (.0051)
Georgetown (.0049)
UChicago (.0036)
MIT (.0032)
Cornell (.0029)
Northwestern (.0026)
UC Berkeley (.0018)</p>
<p>I rounded to the nearest ten thousandth and these aren't necessarily the top 17 or so schools, I just chose these schools as the big names on the list and calculated their per capita enrollments.</p>
<p>Per capita by total enrollment is irrelevant because not everyone who goes to any of these schools applies to HLS. The real telling numbers would be the yield that each school actually achieved (i.e. how many gained admission in a given year out of the applicant pool that year from each school), but you won't find number of applications by school data anywhere. </p>
<p>Just keep in mind that because of the kinds of colleges at Cornell, there are many students at Cornell who would likely never even consider a career in law (as compared to a school that offers more of an open, liberal arts style education for all). I imagine that few Cornellians who are in AAP, Engineering and Hotel apply to law school. If I had to guess, I would say that most of the applicants to law school from among Cornell graduates come from Arts and ILR. In any event, looking at the number of students actually attending HLS from Cornell, and basing some kind of purported yield number from the total number of students at Cornell (especially when compared to smaller schools or schools that offer more of an open, liberal arts style education for all) is misleading, at best. I think that you will find anecdotally that most Cornell grads who apply to law school get in somewhere (which is just not true everywhere) and many Cornell grads get into top law schools.</p>
<p>I believe in the Cornell Career Service booklet about law/law school ('Preparing for Law'?), there is a list of law schools which Cornellians attended. I believe there are figures for applicants/acceptees, but I'm not certain.</p>
<p>ditto sallyawp. Let's be fair: the acceptance rate for all of Harvard's Hotel Administration majors is 0%...</p>
<p>sallyawp's assumption is correct. Very few students from AAP, engineering, science majors, human ecology, and agricultural sciences want to go to law school. Cornell has these majors, most of the other ivys don't, and these students constitute a very large percentage of the Cornell student body.</p>
<p>This is definitely correct. I would like to see the % of people who apply vs. people that get in. That would be much more accurate. It is def encouraging that if you wanted to go to HLS from Cornell, that THAT many people get in. Gives hope...(not that I am going to, I am probably going to apply to business school from ILR). </p>
<p>Are those numbers of students DIRECTLY from Cornell (or other schools) to HLS or those directly and those who get a job and then apply a couple years later. I know that you need a job for MBA programs, but is it the same for Law School? Wow I really have no clue, and as I type this I get more confused LOL.</p>
<p>Does anyone have these types of figures to Business schools such as Wharton (or Harvard Business School especially)?</p>
<p>ugh sorry it won't let me edit</p>
<p>edit: I am planning on working in Boston, so since for a business to pay to send u to grad school it needs to be close by, what are good grad schools in Boston or MA to get an MBA? I saw HBS as #1, BC as #41, BU as #44, Babson as #49 (just throwing out the MA ones) [rankings from US News, which I know can be inaccurate]. I would love HBS and BC, but I don't have much info or draw to the others.</p>
<p>and do you have to work and go to classes in the same day?</p>
<p>Sorry for all the questions! lol I guess I'm just really curious. Thank you soooooo much to everyone who read this and especially to everyone who decided to respond!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I doubt an AEM major is going to apply to Harvard Law. Or an engineer, or a bio major, or an architect, or a psych major, or a hotelie.....</p>
<p>Sometimes you need to think about statistics and whether they make sense and are revelant.</p>
<p>sallyawp said it very well, and to take her point to an almost illogical extreme, I wonder how many students Harvard is sending to Cornell's veterinary school.</p>
<p>well actually, engineering students tend to go into a wide variety of graduate majors. This is because, engineering is looked upon favorably by a wide variety of professions, as engineers have highly refined analytical abilities. Also, how can you say that a human ecology type major is more likely to go into law, when the two have no relation whatsoever, thus, in actuallity the undergraduate major in most cases has no bearing on the graduate degree. Also, we have to remember that at Cornell the kids who go into Hotel already have a career path, the kids who go into AEM have one too, as do the kids in other various factions, therefore, 40 is still very high, as one must remember that not all of Cornell's 3000 members of one class apply, in reality probably around 100-500 kids decide to go into law, and I am probably really inflating that number.</p>
<p>Sallyawp had very good points. Perhaps it'd be more accurate if we calculated the per capita enrollment only using students from A&S and the College of Engineering. Going by that, Cornell's per capita enrollment would jump to... 0.0056, placing it just above Penn, tied with Rice, and just below Williams. I added 200 to the total between A&S and Engineering just to be safe and maybe account for students in CALS and other colleges who may have decided on law. I'd say that it's more likely that Cornell ties or comes very close to Penn's success at Harvard Law when you account for the fact that Hotelies, Art students, and many CALS students don't pursue law. </p>
<p>That being said, I do agree that it is far more important to look at the success rate of applicants rather than per capita enrollment.</p>
<p>I'm a Hotelie...or at least I'm going to be...either that or AEM...and I plan on going to Harvard Law School....I dont see the problem in that? Corporate Law is what I plan on pursuing....is there something that is wrong with that?</p>
<p>I don't think anyone indicated that anything was wrong with that, jokr95.</p>
<p><em>bump on my question</em> :)</p>
<p>More power to you jokr</p>
<p>Yeah, I was talking generally. And I dont know when, as of a few posts ago, law became a major career choice for engineers. I know quite a few engineers, myself included, and don't know of any who plan to pursue law. There may be a few future patent attorneys out there, but I can say with a fair amount of confidence that most engineers do not plan to go to law school. What I was trying to say with the previous post which was grossly misinterpreted is that cornell offers a much greater breadth of majors, many of which are specific (generally) to careers which are not law related, than the other ivies and highly ranked schools. Of course some hotelies will want to do corporate law and some AEM majors will want to go into law. But hotelies and AEM majors, for the most part, go to work in specific places....the hospitality industry and financial firms. Look at the employment statistics from those schools if you want. And there are a lot of other majors, like the engineering majors and architecture, where the vast majority of kids are not going to want to become lawyers. Now look at the other ivies, none of which have a hotel school and only a few of which have engineering. For the most part, these schools are pretty much just arts and sciences. And look at a school like georgetown, where it is pretty much standard that everyone who goes there wants to go into law or become a politician. What I was saying is that cornell's diversity of majors greatly dilutes its applicant pool, so this statistic should not be surprising.</p>
<p>are there statistics for how many got into Harvard Business school?</p>