<p>It’s because many think its harder to get into. But, little do many know, Cornell is very selective. A 19% acceptance rate is very low to me. So it may be “easy” to get into, but its hard to stay in. Cornell is highly rigorous, more than all th other ivies. Why doesn’t Penn get the same hate, it has a 17% acceptance rate not far from Cornell.</p>
<p>People who say that are full of ****. The whole “Ivy” labeling thing is ridiculous. I don’t understand how a bunch of people so obsessed with success find the time to sit around and nitpick colleges for what seems like no apparent reason other than to hurt people’s feelings and feed the creepy Ivy cult of personality.</p>
<p>Cornell is a fine school. Most people on here only think they know what they are talking about.</p>
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because Penn has Wharton which has the same prestige as HYPSMC. :D</p>
<p>Over the years every Ivy, (excepting Harvard, Yale and Princeton), has been designated as the “dumb” Ivy for either having the highest acceptance rates, the most pre-professional programs or the best athletics. For a long time Penn was the “dumb” one, but then the financial boom of the '80 & '90s came along and everyone wanted to go to Wharton and become an investment banker; acceptance rates went down and academic profiles went up even further. Now Wharton undergrad is rumored to be the toughest admit in the Ivies. Today it’s Cornell’s turn to be “dumb”, so be it, but if your college choices and decisions are affected by essentially anonymous comments on internet forums, then you probably aren’t smart enough or resourceful enough to get into Cornell or any other Ivy anyway.</p>
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<p>I’m afraid that’s largely false, and that students are indeed lumped together amongst the university brand name proper rather than distinguished by individual major, however strong it may be. The most straightforward reason is that most people do not end up taking careers that are highly related to their major. Let’s face it: how many psych majors actually become professional psychologists? How many poli-sci majors actually become professional political scientists? Frankly speaking, it doesn’t really matter how strong your individual major may be if you’re not going to pursue a career in that major anyway. Your employment prospects will then be determined by the aggregate brand name of your university, which is why Harvard humanities majors can become investment bankers. </p>
<p>Furthermore, employers are often times poorly informed. Small businesses, as an example, usually know little about the relevant rankings, yet offer some of the best career opportunities. For example, I know several people who graduated with MBA’s from MIT and elected to pursue opportunities in technology management with startup firms. One of the most common obstacles they encountered from potential employers is that many of them didn’t know that MIT even had a business school at all - a testament to the strength of MIT’s brand reputation for science and engineering that serves to obscure the other programs. They had to demonstrate that, yes, MIT not only does indeed have a business school, but it is also not an afterthought, rather it is a well-regarded program in its own right. That is a burden that a Harvard MBA does not have to bear. </p>
<p>Furthermore, many ‘employers’ are simply regular people who serve as customers/clients, and who know and care for little outside of school brand names. This is especially true in the professional services, which is why many Harvard-affiliated lawyers and doctors leverage the Harvard brand name to attract clientele. I can similarly think of several MIT graduates who use the brand name to attract clients to their small technology-services businesses. Regular people don’t know the rankings, and frankly, don’t really care. All they will see is the general university brand name. But their dollars are just as green as anybody else’s.</p>
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perhaps by the great unwashed public, but not at all by an interviewing employer or an adcom.</p>
<p>Psychology majors are Arts & Sciences college majors, that college/major will usually be on the resume/ application, and people will generally know what that is, vs. say engineering or architecture. I believe that most people who are hiring, and have gone through selective college admissions themselves, can and do distinguish, where relevant. I think law school recruiters know the difference between NYU law and Steinhardt College of Education. And finance field recruiters can distinguish between Penn nursing and Wharton. YMMV.</p>
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<p>Most likely true except for business administration. schools with top undergrad business ad usually rival the top schools except HYPSMC.</p>
<p>So I can safely conclude, that Cornell is as great as I have heard it is and everything about it not being “Ivy-Like” is a complete falsehood.
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<p>I went there. The part of Cornell that is Ivy is the arts and sciences section and engineering.</p>
<p>^ cornellians hate people like you. i hope you’re joking and are not as ■■■■■■■■ as that makes you sound. all of cornell is ivy and to separate the colleges/schools would mean that you’re calling your school only a fraction of an ivy. that’s dumb.</p>
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And so were his famous last words before a ninja appeared out of the blue and delivered a fatal blow to itsmylife99 with his katana. No conclusion is safe my friends…</p>
<p>i know this thread is old but cornell is definitely better than u of michigan and uva *** is uva…</p>
<p>“I’m so sorry to resurrect this thread.”
+1</p>
<p>I actually seem to take issue with this thread. First off, the mid-Ivies are better than JHU and Northwestern.
You will rarely find people transferring from Columbia, Penn to Northwestern. It’s fairly common the other way around.</p>
<p>Secondly, Duke is generally considered better than Cornell, JHU, and Northwestern. Duke and Chicago are equal to Columbia, Penn, and Dartmouth and Brown.</p>
<p>Cornell is Ivy, but it’s generally considered the weakest Ivy of the lot. Don’t deny it. It’s true. Ask anyone who isn’t on CC. </p>
<p>Maybe in the long run, it doesn’t matter, but Cornell is easiest to get into. An 18% admit rate isn’t too hard compared to the mid-Ivies whose admit rate is around 9-12%</p>
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Lots of people not on CC think Penn is a state school.</p>
<p>WHY was this thread bumped? Let’s inflate the myth of the Ivy League Sports Conference being an official academic distinction… Sigh.</p>
<p>i got into chicago and cornell and i dont know waht to choose…</p>
<p>MIT not challenging enough, Princey?</p>
<p>“i got into chicago and cornell and i dont know waht to choose…”</p>
<p>Go to Michigan or UVa. You’re not worthy of either school. ;-)</p>