<p>i was bored and was looking over some common data sets, </p>
<p>what i have noticed</p>
<p>many schools, including Duke, Northwestern, Penn, WUSTL over the past few years have become increasingly more competitive</p>
<p>Cornell has not, even if its admission rate drops, its sat scores have slipped this past year while all of these other schools have experienced increases in this area.</p>
<p>This needs to be addressed very quickly for Cornell to keep the status it has, or it is going to start slipping in rankings and public perception</p>
<p>Bball, you need to seriously calm down. All that I've noticed from you while reading messages on this board is that you are TOO into stats, and public perception. You constantly mention stats, rankings, etc., and it is really becoming annoying. If you are unhappy with Cornell, TRANSFER! No one is keeping you here. Remember, you chose to come to Cornell. Either get with it, or get out.</p>
<p>Surely you found the stats that discussed SAT scores of students admitted to Cornell. In this information, you will see that Cornell rejects more people with SAT scores in the ranges of 700-800 than it admits. If memory serves me correct, they reject significantly more. There's no doubt that Cornell could fill its class with all 2100+ SAT students. However, unlike some schools, Cornell looks to admit students that would utilize the school to the best of their abilities. Who cares about SAT scores if a person is just going to sit in their room and do nothing! Cornell wants leaders, and those aren't necessarily the people with perfect scores. I'm sure Cornell laughs at the schools who choose to admit students based on how high their SAT scores are. </p>
<p>Funny, despite the slight drop in average SAT scores, Cornell gained another spot on the US News rankings. They also jumped up 7 spots (i believe) to #14 in the london time's world ranking.</p>
<p>BBall, if you got a 1600 or something, your *****ing and moaning might have more validity, but you're not really that far above average for Arts + Sciences. Perhaps Cornell takes a more wholistic approach than most schools and can look past the numbers, unlike some of us who are still attached to the fallacy that SATs are entirely reflective of intelligence and potential. Yes, they're somewhat related, but not entirely, get over the prestige thing, you look foolish. And leave bullseye your spot :).</p>
<p>I'd also like to take the time to address the fact that you looked me up on facebook like a month ago and still haven't told me who you are creeps me out.</p>
<p>i will trust me, i dont think i am going to be here next year! Good luck to one of the 550 or whatever, 1000 transfer students that cornell accepts take my spot.</p>
<p>you really care that much about public perception of cornell and rankings that you're willing to transfer out?.. thats pathetic..i feel bad for you man..you wasted a year at the worst university in the east</p>
<p>I don't think everyone has to jump all over him. He is just addressing something that concerns him about a school that he is paying good money to go to. Would you criticize him if Cornell looked really crappy, and bball was saying that he wanted Cornell to man up and make it look better? Most likely you would agree. What is the difference between the two situations, relatively nothing. They are both situations that involve making a change to something at Cornell that the idea person does not like. It just so happens that a lot of people on here disagree with the ranking and SAT situation.</p>
<p>Yes, in the past bball has said some things that had upset people, but the context of his original post was nothing insightful, it was an observation and a suggestion.</p>
<p>bball..don't bash other colleges..sorry guys I'm from the hopkins forumn but I thought I'd help the cornellians out on this one..honestly bball, your logic and reasoning toward your assertion and call of action for cornell is ludicrous. Just because univesities retain a slightly lower SAT score does not by all means mean they are suddenly losing reputation or academic excellence. STATS and SCORES are just ONE factor in the admissions processes, and the other factors are sometimes EQUALLY as important. I respect Cornell's admissions policies and believe their rep is great and is not subject to change for the worse at all. Sorry man, but you're acting utterly ignorant and close-minded.</p>
<p>Ironically, this thread may prove bball's point. The fact that Cornell admitted a stats and prestige whore like bball might be a sign that our admissions staff isn't doing as well as we'd hope.</p>