Cornell or Northwestern for Gov & Econ??

College Search & Selection
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<p>The title basically states the premise. I just want to know which school would be more rigorous but beneficial. Would law schools take a certain preference to one over the other?? I also would like to delve into a second language. I will have taken four eyars of Spanish, but it's a joke. I was thinking French, Russian, or Arabic. So I guess the caliber of language instruction between the two would also be an important factor. Thank ya much!!</p>

<p>p.s. Which one is more gay-friendly, Northwestern or Cornell???</p>

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<p>Well hot damn!! Lo siento on the type-o!!</p>

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<p>Cornell University</p>

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<p>Thanks for the input Pierre, but could you elaborate more??</p>

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<p>both are about the same but Cornell is a bit harder academically has one of the best Career Services offices in the country, does a better job placing students into jobs and grad schools than Northwestern</p>

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<p>I’m interested in those two majors and those two schools, so I’m curious to hear what people say.</p>

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<p>The only part of pierre0913’s response that I can agree with is the overly simplified “both are about the same.”</p>

<p>Cornell and Northwestern are true peer schools in overall academics. Cornell programs like architecture and hotel management are not found at NU. Programs in journalism, education, music, speech and theater at Northwestern are not found in these forms at Cornell. ALL are among the top programs of their kind anywhere in the country.</p>

<p>Government/Political Science programs at the two schools are both strong and, at the graduate level, ranked almost evenly at #20 and #21 nationally.</p>

<p>Economics is reputed to be a bit stronger at Northwestern - #8 in US News. Cornell sits at #18. The supporting business schools/MBA programs at both are strong but Northwestern’s Kellogg School is consistently ranked higher, generally #1,2, or 3 in most individual rankings (US News, Business Week, etc.). Many believe it the best overall MBA program in the nation.</p>

<p>Foreign language programs at both will not be measurably different to someone looking for a minor or supporting second major.</p>

<p>Overall, academically, both will well support your academic interests. Only in economics might the nod slightly fall to Northwestern’s favor. Both are liberal, gay friendly places. Ithaca vs. Evanston/Chicago might be the big issue in deciding which of these two schools will better fit what you’re looking for the next four years.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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<p>Thanks. You my numba one balla!! haha It looks like it will definitely be a tougher decision. I might ask other questions to further whittle it down. Which schools is more unified in student body?? Is the campus in Evanston pretty? Are professors accessible/nice at both schools? Oh, I got one! Will NU make me a strong applicant for law everywhere or just in the midwest?? I figured Cornell’s placement is practically universal. I just want to make sure that Northwestern has good placement on the coasts. I might even need connections in the south if I need to come back home and take care of Memaw. lol</p>

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<p>I would take Cornell in your situation. Cornell has like daily buses to NYC soo to me that screams liberal. Overall I would choose cornell not just for it’s liberal atmosphere, but for academics, and job placement. If you are looking at grad school nothing looks better than coming from an Ivy.</p>

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<p>I have heard bad things about Evanston about how the town and students hate each other, but then again Ithaca is in the middle of nowhere (though if it’s true that there are busses to NYC, then it’s not that bad)</p>

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<p>I’m go to Cornell but am originally from Evanston (and have spent significant time at NU doing summer research and with my friends there). Evanston and Ithaca are both pretty liberal (Ithaca slightly more) and I love both of them a lot. Ithaca definitely has more of a collegetown feel though. Cornell definitely offers a lot more job opportunities on the East coast but typically at either school, most companies would be willing to relocate you.</p>

<p>Academically, both schools are quite similar. A major difference you might want to consider is NU is on the quarter system while Cornell is on the semester system. This impacts your schedule and the intensity of the classes. So typically, NU students will take 3-4 classes a quarter while Cornell students take 4-5 classes a semester. While I have not taken language courses at Cornell, I’ve heard that the language programs (especially Arabic) are really good, but really really intense (which is what you need for learning a new language). </p>

<p>The overall feel of the campus’ are similar, although I would have to say Cornell’s is a little nicer. Northwestern seems so cramped to me after being at Cornell. The natural beauty at Cornell just can’t be beat, although having chicago so close is nice. </p>

<p>And btw, the town-gown relations for evanston and northwestern are quite strained… mostly because NU does things like go behind the city’s back and buy buildings (thus making them tax-free) or kick the historical society out of the building they are in b/c Northwestern owns it. When I was home for break and northwestern was still in session…I was so frustrated about how the NU kids have infiltrated Evanston. Like they had practically taken over Panera bread with their studying and hanging out and all I wanted to do was sit down and eat my sandwich! Go to a library and don’t take over my Panera Bread! It seems like NU students kind of feel like Evanston owes them something and they feel superior to local people, as they think with out them, Evanston would be nothing. My Evanston friends at NU agree with this. Sorry that was so long…needed to vent!</p>

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<p>Evanston without Northwestern is just another north shore suburb with a bigger downtown, albeit not quite as safe as those farther north.</p>

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<p>No difference for top law schools, which are all about gpa+lsat.</p>

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<p>“No difference for top law schools, which are all about gpa+lsat.”</p>

<p>Yup. Well, gpa+lsat+(less importantly) some weighting for college quality and grade inflation/deflation. Cornell/Northwestern - no difference.</p>

<p>“Evanston without Northwestern is just another north shore suburb with a bigger downtown”</p>

<p>Yup. Northwestern makes Evanston and Evanston, in turn, offers a great home base for the school. Town-gown issue, raised by vivace13, is totally one sided. For Northwestern students this is a non issue. But I do understand the difficulties being a “townie” in Evanston (or, MUCH worse, in Ithaca!). Hard to live in the shadow of a university surrounded by its students as a local HS student. See Breaking Away (movie takes place at Indiana U), if you haven’t.</p>

<p>“Which schools is more unified in student body??”</p>

<p>Pretty similar bonding goes on at both. Generally, those that select the two schools come to love the time they spend there. </p>

<p>“Are professors accessible/nice at both schools?”</p>

<p>Similar high quality profs. Accessibility is strongest at both in specialty programs and in classes past intros (which generally will be large - esp. at Cornell). </p>

<p>“Is the campus in Evanston pretty?”</p>

<p>Yes, Northwestern’s lakefront fields, walks, beaches, and Chicago skyline are great.<br>
But, Cornell has a very pretty, much more spread out, campus with a rural feel. The campus is very big - too big for some (not for me, personally). The school, remember, has over 13,000 undergrads alone. This is not Vassar. </p>

<p>If you want nature, wilder environs, and a small town base, head to Cornell. If you want a lovely but tamer campus with Chicago access an El ride away, head to Northwestern. Forget the advice about bus tripping to NYC from Ithaca by the way, unless 230 miles doesn’t seem like a trek.</p>

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<p>yeah I would agree that the town-gown relationship is definitely more noticeable on the town side. Students probably don’t care. But in HS, I didn’t even notice the northwestern students… Just coming back during college, I realized how much the Northwestern students “take over” Evanston. </p>

<p>I think it is slightly different in Ithaca as Cornell students stay near campus and collegetown and don’t usually venture into the downtown area. I’m sure townies in Ith have similar feelings, but a much higher proportion of residents in Ithaca are associated with higher education in the area, that feeling is probably less so. </p>

<p>I guess I see it this way: Evanston w/o NU would be pretty much the same, but I think Ithaca w/o Cornell (or IC) would be completely different.</p>

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<p>Thanks y’all!!! So I was wondering. Are there any “stereotypes” for the mentioned schools?? Negative or positive.</p>