<p>I just got into WUSTL Arts & Sci for a math/eco major, and I'm already admitted into ILR at Cornell. I didn't think that I had any shot at either one, now that I got in both I have a really tough decision. The main criterion is which school would be better at getting a really good job right after I graduate, although I'm looking to get into a really good business school so I don't know how much the undergrad would matter anyway. Being from NYC I know Cornell would have a better rep, but any input would be great.</p>
<p>if you are mostly concerned with getting a job after graduation, I feel like cornell would give you more opportunities. However, the good thing is that you are in a good position because both are excellent schools.</p>
<p>I am very familiar with Cornell as two family members attended. While Cornell has the better reputation and has generally more contacts in New York (it is also more well recruited), I would say ILR is not your best bet to land IB or consulting jobs. There are just other majors at Cornell that grab those jobs away from the ILR students, such as Econ, AEM, engineering, math majors, hotel, etc. Good luck though.</p>
<p>I'm a transfer student at WashU and I have been very pleased with the Career Center's services.</p>
<p>WashU grads can hold their own on the job market. Nonetheless, if you intend to work in New York, you will likely have an advantage by attending Cornell, just as you would if you'd attended NYU or Columbia. You are more likely to find a lot of Cornell alums hiring in NY than WashU alums, and it usually helps to have a connection like having the same alma mater.</p>
<p>In the same sense, I think you'd be better to attend WashU if you planned on working in St. Louis or Chicago.</p>
<p>Yea I'm defintely leaning towards Cornell, but the ILR thing really worries me, I'm not sure how good the jobs wiill be even though it's a great school too, I feel math/eco might look a little bit bitter.</p>
<p>For Cornell Econ/math vs. WUSTL econ/math, I probably pick Cornell.
But for Cornell ILR vs WUSTL econ/math, I would say WUSTL. ILR is considered a soft major, while the skills you get by majoring in econ/math are sought after no matter you would like to pursue Investment Banking or Ph.D. programs.</p>
<p>yea, the only problem with the math and econ majors, is that there are so many students majoring in them, thus limiting "good" job opportunities to the very best. its just like the premed programs. so, while the earlier posts are not by any means unsound, remember that the ilr degree can lead into many thing. (there is even the 5 year program with the johnson school of management at cornell to get an mba)</p>
<p>cornellllllllllllll :]</p>
<p>the_aspirant is a prestige whore. Go for Wustl.</p>
<p>eh, I honestly think I would take Wash U econ and math over Cornell ILR (which I actually know a lot about). I have many family members who attended Cornell, and the one thing I have gathered is that ILR and AEM are pretty easy majors. I think that econ and math are more versatile degrees. If you are looking for investment banking and consulting, I think that ILR would be a rather circuitous route to those fields.</p>
<p>"I am very familiar with Cornell"
no, you are not becuase this statement:</p>
<p>"I would say ILR is not your best bet to land IB or consulting jobs."
is completely and utterly false. </p>
<p>ILR is among the BEST at placing grads into jobs, especially in wall street. How do I know? Well, for starters I'm about to graduate from ILR. I know a dozens people go just graduated who are on wall street in numberous ibanking firms right now. I know a few more who are in other parts of the country working for a few consulting firms that people usually consider prestigious. </p>
<p>ILR grads, on average, earn about $15,000 more their first year of work than their fellows in the college of arts and sciences. </p>
<p>'ILR is considered a soft major, while the skills you get by majoring in econ/math are sought after no matter you would like to pursue Investment Banking or Ph.D. programs."
ILR grads are picked up for their analytical ability and superb problem solving skills - but dont worry, much of ILR is grounded in econ and you can take as many econ classes as you like. Your transcript will be a reflection of what classes you've taken and what you've learned, not your major. </p>
<p>"There are just other majors at Cornell that grab those jobs away from the ILR students, such as Econ, AEM, engineering, math majors, hotel, etc. Good luck though"
It's the opposite, actually. Do you know what Goldman Sachs did last fall when they were done recruiting Cornell students from any major? Yeah, they held private recruitment sessions open ONLY to students at the ILR school. Mercer Consulting did the same shortly after. </p>
<p>ILR is the best choice here, unless you have some affinity for Missouri. You'll be hooked up very nicely with tremendous recruitment and career placement. Take it from somebody who actually attends the school and has done the whole job/internship search.</p>
<p>"I think that econ and math are more versatile degrees"</p>
<p>Ok, now I know that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you've never applied for a real job before.</p>
<p>In the business field, ILR places grads in both the labor/union aspect and the Banking, management aspect, plus everything in between from HR, org. development, economic analysis, consulting, and tons and tons more --- from taking care of the poor to making the ultra-rich richer, how much more "versatile" of a major do you want? Oh yeah, lets not forget about ILR's excellent placement into grad schools, PhD programs, and the tremendous placement into law school.</p>
<p>There is an important distinction between our views. You have a specific affinity for Cornell as you go there. I have no personal investment in Cornell, and I see things a little different. You still haven't proven that ILR is a better degree than Econ or Math. You are just saying that ILR can get you to the same route, which is almost saying that like Duke Law can get you in a corporate law firm while Harvard Law can as well. The only thing that should be recognized is that the Harvard Law guy will have an EASIER time getting to that position. No one is saying that ILR students cannot get into banking/consulting. Your limited case study (a few friends) is not enough to sway me into believing that ILR is a better degree than ECON.</p>
<p>"There is an important distinction between our views."
lol, yeah, I know what I'm talking about. </p>
<p>"You still haven't proven that ILR is a better degree than Econ or Math"
I'm not looking to prove it's a better degree than econ or math, dumbass. If the OP wants to study pure econ or pure math, then a degree in only econ or math would be the best choice. You can do a bunch of econ and math in ILR, but I still think the regular degree in econ or math is likely better. By applying to ILR, i'm assuming the OP has a bit of a more diverse interest in mind. I'm just trying to prove that ILR is fantastic at placement into top banking/consulting firms. A quick call to career services at Cornell should do this enough though, if it's that important for the OP, then they should take that upon themselves and not trust all that's said on a public forum (he/she doesn't have to take it from me, just call up ILR). </p>
<p>" I have no personal investment in Cornell"
then why should the OP believe what you have to say about ILR's placement into Ibanking when my personal obersvations as being connected to the school and having seen many friends graduate and enter the job world say that you're very wrong. </p>
<p>"You are just saying that ILR can get you to the same route, which is almost saying that like Duke Law can get you in a corporate law firm while Harvard Law can as well"
I don't know much about the placement of law schools (much like you dont know about ILR) so it's not fair for me to make assumptions for the OP in an important choice like this. I suggest you do the same.</p>
<p>"Your limited case study (a few friends) is not enough to sway me into believing that ILR is a better degree than ECON."
I just prefer to reference a few friends as I'm close to them - if there's any doubt just look for the flyer that's distributed every year that lists some of the companies that ILR grads are placed into. You'll get the same answer as me, just with more work as I dont think it's published online.<br>
Besides, your "case study" of a few family member who wern't ILR majors is a better example?? I hope you dont write college papers with the same logic and resources as you use on this forum.</p>