It he preferred Cornell, nothing on his strategy should have changed, particularly since NYU has ED2 and Cornell does not.
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I wish your son the best of luck in getting in to Cornell- however, ED2 at NYU is a tremendous back up opportunity!
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thank you for the kind words.
True, Cornel has the right to conduct their admissions process. But Cornel should have announced this much earlier because âassumedâ ED admission rate is a major decision for many applicants. If applicants knew ahead that Cornel would cut the ED admission rate by half (whatever serious number), they would choose ED of someone else. If Cornel knew the significant rate cut ahead without announcing it in advance, this act would be similar to the act by which some ad baits people to buy something. For many applicants, there would be major opportunity cost in this matter. I hope the ED admission rate cut is not drastic. Of course, someone with national or international awards shall not worry about this. We talk about average in social matters, however.
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If that is the case, then Cornell was never truly their first choice. And ED is meant for students for whom the school is their first choice.
From the Cornell website:
"Early Decision is a binding commitment for students who have selected Cornell as their first choice. "
As mentioned above, relative acceptance rates should not really be a factor in the decision to apply ED and are NEVER promised by any school. People look at the past to try to guess the future, but there are no guarantees. Things change. And, at the end of the day, ED is meant for your first choice school. If relative acceptance rate is what youâre using to choose ED, then you arenât making a sincere choice. You are making a strategic choice. And thatâs not really what schools - Cornell and others - are looking for in ED applicants. They are quite clear about this.
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I wonder if Cornell is stating this may be because the ED applicant pool is not as competitive as previous years? There could be a lot of things going behind the scenes and weâre trying to speculate the reasons. We just have to go with the flow and we all very well knew itâs like winning the lottery applying at Cornell (ED or RD) regardless
How do you know that other schools are not doing exactly the same thing? Theyâre just not announcing it. A lot will, but after the fact.
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This is the problem. It shouldnât be, for a lot of reasons.
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I have no skin in this game, but college admissions is a business. A big money business. And i dont think there is anything wrong with comparing ED acceptance rates at several schools if a family agrees their student can apply ED. And if my kid had applied ED this cycle to Cornell only to find out they were chewing on this issue into the fall, Iâd be livid even if it was a storybook match of a school, first pick true blue for my kid. Cornell can do whatever they want, but boy, what a smack in the face to those who chose them this year to ED. My opinion.
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THISSSSSS
At least Cornell is putting this out there.
Has my head spinning about other schools and what they plan to do with selecting their ED applicants. Then with the concerns by some regarding safety at the ivies and how students have decided to not apply to them and moved on to what would have been their âplan bâ schools. all those kids who were in love with the plan b school are not sweating bullets that the ivy kids are in the ED pool with them.
You do not love only one woman/man in the world. You love a group of such persons with similar qualities and whoever comes first hits it. I do not think people who apply for ED of a school only love that particular school. In most cases, it is one of the top best choices. Letâs be real.
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I happen to agree with you. Every school has pro and cons. Size. Location. Vibe. So I think a kid picking one of 3-4 contenders based on the ED rate is completely fair game.
HoweverâŠthe % of the class that a particular school fills in the ED round can, and does, fluctuate year over year. So Cornellâs, and many others presumably, will be different this year than in prior years. I donât think a school has an obligation to announce, âlast year we picked x% of our class in ED, this year it will be y%â
EDIT: Also, have you thought about the fact that if other schools are moving in a similar direction, it might be a net BENEFIT to your kid? You can only apply to one school ED but several RD. So maybe your kidâs ED chance at Cornell has declined but their chance at the other 3-4 highly selective schools that they didnât pick for ED has actually increased?
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this is how I have chosen to manage my feeling about this whole ED thing
if the ed does not work out maybe rd to elsewhere which was thought to be a long shot is possibly attainable
As long as the rate cut is not drastic, I think it is a fair game. If the cut is drastic without an announcement in advance, a university who does this will lose trust in the future since the new applicants would have a second thought âis ED rate this year as bad/good as RD? Why would I lock myself out of all other good options?â. Some variations in admission rate over years are fine. But a drop from 25% to 10% will do harm to the schoolâs reputation and hurt applicantsâ feeling.
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All Iâm saying is if you are going to use ED admission rate as a deciding factor, you need to really understand what goes into that number, including annual fluctuations. In addition to already mentioned hooked applicants, Cornell has 4 contract colleges that give preference to NY kids. So that is also part of it.
Thanks for the information. I do not know this honestly. I do know that Cornell has contract with NY state and NY students pay less tuition by contract and this is well documented at Cornell website. But I do not know NY residents are given preferential admission. This is something new to me indeed.
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Is Dyson considered one of those schools? As far as giving preference to NY students?
Iâm not sure. Check Cornellâs website directly.
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Yes for Applied Econ. Not for hotel. For cost - donât know if NY kids get preference.
ED is binding. ED applicants took a higher risk for higher yield or return. As simple as that. Itâs similar to putting money into a CD with ED while regular savings with RD. YES, institutions woo applicants to ED for a materially higher yield which is mutually beneficial. IF Cornell believes in what they preach then they should simply get rid of ED once and for ALL. Cornell canât double dip AFTER poor kids already dolled their heart out! Oh, yes, there are absolutely alternatives if CORNELL announced honestly and truthfully in a proper timeframe.
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