Cornell vs Berkeley (BUT THIS TIME IT'S ACTUALLY IMPORTANT)

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>And now i see why some people have ridiculous post counts.</p>

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<p>if i do not exist then
do i not cry?:frowning:
do i not laugh?:smiley:
do i not smile?:slight_smile:
do i not want?:stuck_out_tongue:
do i not need?;)</p>

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<p>and now i see why some people have negligible no. of posts-coz they have been neglected by the world-</p>

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<p>Points:</p>

<p>“I want a college town feel.”</p>

<p>Cornell has that.</p>

<p>“I want a solid college community and school pride.”</p>

<p>Cornell has the latter I would say. “Solid” is an amorphous term to me. Looking as an aggregate the community as a whole cares and is connected to the campus. However it is somewhat fractured into intertwined subcommunities, and much smaller groups of friends, due to size. It is not an LAC. However neither is your alternative.</p>

<p>Perhaps someone who attends Hum Ec can comment on the degree to which Hum Ec itself provides somewhat of a community feel, that I wouldn’t know.</p>

<p>“I have delusional mental images of spending nights in a huge, amazing library surrounded by other equally as industrious students.”</p>

<p>I have those same images, but in my case they were not delusional since they represented the reality of some portion of my life as a student at Cornell.</p>

<p>“I want to experience dorm life.”</p>

<p>Coming in as a transfer you can do that, however the dorm experience as a transfer may not be identical to the experience as a freshman. There are far fewer transfers,vs. incoming freshmen, and the transfers may be somewhat scattered/diffused across the upperclass dorms. The majority of other students in these dorms already have an established network of friends, hence may be somewhat less interested in meeting new people. Unlike the situation as a freshman entering the freshman dorms.</p>

<p>“Food is important.”
Cornell allegedly has good campus food. The off-campus, off-meal plan food selection in the vicinity is very decent, all things considered. I would imagine that Berkeley
offers considerably more in this latter regard, however perhaps as a poor college student you may not be able to afford the many nice restaurants in the area there.</p>

<p>“I HATE the cold.”
Well then…
If you choose Cornell,consider doing a summer session there and then an internship or something elsewhere one Spring semester.</p>

<p>But facts is facts:
<a href=“National and Local Weather Radar, Daily Forecast, Hurricane and information from The Weather Channel and weather.com”>National and Local Weather Radar, Daily Forecast, Hurricane and information from The Weather Channel and weather.com, NY&sfld2=Berkeley, CA&clocid1=USNY0717&clocid2=</p>

<p>You can look at as a challenge, to go outside your comfort level (literally) and increase your capability to adapt. Or you can look at is as you will be cold.</p>

<p>“I’m 6’10. (You never know if this could be relevant.)”
Suggest check with Residence Life about bed sizes in the dorms.
You will be popular for intramural basketball, i imagine.</p>

<p>“I have pretty bad anxiety issues and wonder if I could handle being that far from home.”</p>

<p>What can I say, Ithaca is pretty darned far from your home. Berkeley is not exactly next door to you though either though, you have to decide how the respective distances and travel times would impact situations that may come up for you. </p>

<p>“I get sick a lot.”</p>

<p>There’s a clinic at Cornell of course, but if your parents may be needed they will not be close. The per-semester charge for the clinic is somewhat expensive, and it will likely be mandatory since you may be out-of-network for any coverage your parents may have.
No idea about Berkeley.</p>

<p>“I plan on going to law school.”
Check with Hum Ec about success others from there have had, GPA they’ve needed, etc.</p>

<p>“My family is pretty poor.”
Living in Ithaca would be comparatively quite economical I imagine, however transportation costs may be high.</p>

<p>“I got except to CHE, not CAS, if that makes any difference.”
Yes of courses the content of your program of studies, what you are actually going to learn in either case, should make a difference. Which program of studies best matches your interests and objectives? </p>

<p>“I do like prestige”</p>

<p>As I like to say, one cannot eat prestige. Plus, prestige, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. As an ex-engineer I would always favor substance over form, so IMO forget about prestige and think of which environment is going to help you increase your personal capabilities more. You can count on being judged, down the road, based on your personal capabilities far moreso than whether you attended Cornell or Berkeley.</p>

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<p>Thanks monydad, you are the alpha male of the Cornell threads.</p>

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<p>It’s just that Gomestar is in semi-retirement.
I retired once, but relapsed when D2 decided to transfer.</p>

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<p>I once ate a tasty Yale.</p>

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<p>I will retire again soon.</p>

<p>I fear for the future…</p>

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<p>go to berkeley. cornell isn’t that great</p>

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<p>Care to elaborate?</p>

<p>Is it silly of me to think that if I had gotten into Cornell CAS I would definitely go. But since it’s Humec, it’s holding me back?</p>

<p>Feel free to be brutal and call me a horrible person.</p>

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<p>No matter what college or school you got into or graduate from–your degree says Cornell University. Also, you can transfer w/in schools, or take classes at other colleges and school. </p>

<p>If you attend Cornell, you are a Cornell student, period.</p>

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<p>I see your fancy-schmancy Berkeley library, and I raise you <a href=“http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/whitelibrary.jpg[/url]”>http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/whitelibrary.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Seriously - all but the cold was a perfect description of Cornell in your desires. I know a lot of people who presumably “hated the cold” because they were raised in Florida or Texas or California. </p>

<p>Their bodies adjusted. Don’t let that dissuade you. Plus, it might be nice to get away from Californians and see how normal people think for a while (just kidding). Good growth opportunity, though, to try out the other side of the country. It is different.</p>

<p>Either school’s great, though. But, contrary to a previous ambiguous poster, Cornell is pretty great for the right type of people and horrible for the wrong type of people. Just seemed like you described Cornell to a tee.</p>

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<p>I see your old dingy library and raise a modern underground oasis of study… 24/7.
<a href=“http://www.archnewsnow.com/features/images/Feature0194_11x.jpg[/url]”>http://www.archnewsnow.com/features/images/Feature0194_11x.jpg&lt;/a&gt;
[Doe</a> Library on Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/tiffanysea/228430948/]Doe”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/tiffanysea/228430948/)</p>

<p>Berkeley #3 Research Library,
Cornell #8.
[Library</a> Rankings](<a href=“http://www.cehd.umn.edu/accreditation/evidence/Other/LibraryRankings.html]Library”>http://www.cehd.umn.edu/accreditation/evidence/Other/LibraryRankings.html)</p>

<p>RileyJohn would not be the only tallest sexiest thing on campus:</p>

<p>The Campanile at Berkeley,stands 307 feet (93.6 m) tall, making it the third tallest bell and clock-tower in the world.
<a href=“http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2009/07/campanileHDR.jpg[/url]”>http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2009/07/campanileHDR.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The McGraw Tower at Cornell stands at 173-foot (53 m).
<a href=“Home | Cornell Chronicle”>Home | Cornell Chronicle;
(notice the snow in the pic!)</p>

<p>and:</p>

<p>Berkeley is in California
Cornell is in Ithayuck</p>

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<p>You mean…</p>

<p>Berkeley is in Californaggedon
Cornell is in Ithawonderful</p>

<p>You couldn’t pay me to live in California. Prop 13 makes me want to puke. Who would want to live in a place that forces you to pay higher taxes than the person who lives next to you simply because you moved there later? Idiots and thieves, that’s who. No surprise that California was the heart of mortgage fraud.</p>

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<p>The question is not where to live…that’s trying to divert the issue. Unless you are a Prof or a cow-farm owner, would you live in Ithaca ?
The issue is where to go to College…Ithaca is great, but Northern California is one of the most coveted places on earth …weather, physical beauty, racial diversity, outdoors, food options, silicon valley etc etc makes it one of the most desirable places…</p>

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<p>I found Berkeley to be too large and impersonal. California is nice (I’m from there obviously). But, the one thing I dislike about Californians is their inability to see beyond their own state lines. I’ve met many Californias who have never been out of the state. If you want to live in CA in the future that’s great. But, see the rest of America before then. I’ve lived for 6+ years each on the West Coast, Midwest, and East Coast. Each region has a lot to offer and it’s silly to pass up the chance to experience that because you’re afraid of a little cold. I wouldn’t want to live in Ithaca for the rest of my life. But, it’s a great collegetown and makes for a great college experience. Hence, I have absolutely no regrets choosing Cornell over Berkeley.</p>

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<p>What? My posts were important as well! x.x </p>

<p>I was in your shoes a week ago or so and I picked Cornell over Berkeley even though im doing EECS (Berkeley’s most famous major) I wanna be special and go to Cornell as opposed to the thousands of people at berkeley. The campus size is like double. Lawls.</p>

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<p>wait you are considering berkely over cornell?</p>

<p>seriously?</p>

<p>and your saying humec is holding you back yet Berkley is a state school?</p>

<p>imo cornell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>berkley. Ithaca is a wonderful,gorgeus city with a blooming collegetown and cornell just owns in academics.</p>

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<p>As a former texan i can testify to the intense weather, and the adaptability as well. If you dress warm, then you shouldn’t really have a problem during the winter here. I dressed warm and felt fine most of the time, with a few times when the weather report was wrong and it snowed while i was in a long-sleeved t-shirt (twice). Feeling anxious and far away? Gannett has exellent psychologists/iatrists in addition to an EARS program-- both of which are free and effective from what i hear.
I also have to agree with the general sentiments regarding exposure. It’s always good to experience a different culture and to be exposed to a multitude of lifestyles via the generally-diverse population.</p>