<p>where do u get that 1330-1520, where is ur evidence?</p>
<p>it was posted on the Cornell website. Do a quick search for it. </p>
<p>i figured you, of all people, would know this.</p>
<p>I am not sure how this compares to other schools, and I am not really sure what it means, but...for what it's worth...</p>
<p>Six months after graduation, about 85% of the graduates from Cornell's College of Engineering and from Industrial and Labor Relations are either employed or in graduate/professional school. About 70% from other Cornell colleges are employed or in grad/professional school. The average starting salary in tech areas was 61K, and in most other areas 45-50K. Of those who go to grad school, 20% go for engineering, 20% go for law, 12% go for medicine, 15% go for biology or health fields, and 5% go for physical sciences. Of those who obtained jobs, 55% was through Cornell career services, 22% through on-campus recruiting, 17% through internships, the rest through means like faculty and alumni contacts.</p>
<p>These sound like good statistics to me but I have nothing to compare with.</p>
<p>The companies hiring the most Cornell grads were:
Accenture
General Electric
Goldman Sachs
JP Morgan Chase
IBM
Microsoft
Lockheed Martin
UBS (never heard of it)
Credit Suisse First Boston (never heard of it)</p>
<p>In electrical engineering, Cornell sent students to the following grad schools last year:
Caltech
MIT
Stanford
Michigan
Berkeley
Maryland (ranked 13th in electrical)
Columbia
Purdue
UCSD
UCSB
UVA
U Texas Austin
Cornell
USC</p>
<p>I keep forgetting that simbajune55 is bball. How's Northwestern going?</p>
<p>bball, i've been wondering as well.</p>
<p>Well...look at Duke's placement and make a comparison and maybe that list will mean something collegehelp...I mean, all the schools we are discussing are elite schools so naturally all of them will be highly recruited at</p>
<p>Alos, even if you discount all of the colleges at Cornell aside from A and S, Duke still is stronger....just not by as much</p>
<p>Duke also has engineering, so shouldn't that be included in a comparison?</p>
<p>Duke's engineering stats are stronger as well...as with the A and S which has higher stats, and overall Dukes stats are just higher</p>
<p>Stats aren't everything of course</p>
<p>All I'm saying is that alot of people at Duke have non-traditional majors such as military science and 10% are in security and protective services...at Cornell these would probably in a unique school, whereas at Duke they are in A and S...</p>
<p>Cornell w/o any doubt</p>
<p>haha Duke without any doubt...go with the masses my young friend...</p>
<p>but thoughtprocess, u have to remember that around 50 percent of Cornell have schools like agriculture, human ecology, architecture, schools that dont by any means value sat scores. If Cornell was solely an A/S and engineering school, i am faily confident in that its sat range would be somewhere between 1330-1530.</p>
<p>you're the only real mass for duke. </p>
<p>Cornell Engineering's SAT profile is 1380-1540 with 96% comming from the top 10% of the high school class. </p>
<p>For something like engineering, the clear edge goes to Cornell. Best in the Ivy League, SAT math ranges that's just a tad behind MIT (mid 50% at Cornell Engineering is 740-800), plus a very large engineering school with very diverse offerings. I'd say pick Cornell just because of the number of classes offered across various disciplines. There's over 3,000 undergrads in engineering alone. The large departments also offer an abundance of research opportunities for undergrads. For most other majors, it's a toss-up between the two schools, but Cornell just excells in the engineering department in a way that duke doesn't.</p>
<p>Well, I agree go to Cornell for engineering</p>
<p>I'm saying for like law, med, biz - go to Duke</p>
<p>For Business? Really? According to USNews Cornell's undergrad biz program is tied for 12th, while Duke's isn't even mentioned (do they even have an undergrad biz program?). </p>
<p>Then again, I'm not familiar with either, so whatever.</p>
<p>i say for law, med, biz - make it a coin toss because a successful student at either university will land all of the same job offers, grad school acceptances, and so forth.</p>
<p>Ray - You'll notice that most elite schools (with 'elite' in this context defined as HYPSM + Ivies + Ivy equivalents) don't have undergraduate business programs. Trust me when I say it doesn't place their students at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>Ray - You'll notice that most elite schools (with 'elite' in this context defined as HYPSM + Ivies + Ivy equivalents) don't have undergraduate business programs. Trust me when I say it doesn't place their students at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>I never said that it put anybody at a disadvantage. However, it would be much more logical for an undergrad interested in business to go a school where there's an undergrad business program. So really, even if it's not an disadvantage I don't see why Duke would be better because of it.</p>
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<p>Not really. "Business" casts a very wide net. For accounting and marketing, then yes, undergrad business programs are best. But when many high-achieving students say they want to go into "business," they're often thinking of finance or management related jobs. For those it's better to go to the more prestigious school, even if said school doesn't have undergrad business. In this case, there isn't a real difference between Cornell and Duke, although there is one between either of those schools and Harvard.</p>
<p>Ray...Duke is ranked 11th in business higher than Cornell...and thats a graduate program, when I said it was better for biz I meant for undergrad.</p>
<p>bananainpyjamas, many elites have undegraduate Business pograms. In fact, roughly half of the nation's top 25 universities have undergraduate Business programs:</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Emory University
Georgetown University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
University of California-Berkeley
UNiversity of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania
University of Virginia
Washington University-St Louis</p>
<p>Thethoughtprocess, Cornell and Duke have roughly equally highly ranked MBA programs. Both are generally ranked between #10 and #15 in almost every respected ranking.</p>