Counselor at my local CC told me some very disturbing news today..

<p>Also if I wanted to transfer to one of those upper/mid UC's, is it mandatory that I finish all the pre-reqs before transfering?</p>

<p>This is what that assist site told me:</p>

<p>ASSIST</a> Report: MTSAC 07-08 UCLA Articulation Agreement by Major</p>

<p>That one is for UCLA</p>

<p>ASSIST</a> Report: MTSAC 07-08 UCSD Articulation Agreement by Major</p>

<p>thats for UCSD
It lists a whole bunch of courses. Do I need to take all of those to transfer? How many years does that look like?</p>

<p>seven years? wow im speechless</p>

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<p>Listen to this person, they speak the truth. I applied after three 3 years at the CC as a Bio Major, and have only been accepted by UCSB at the moment. It is very difficult to finish within the 3 year time frame, and not to mention keep up a decent gpa. Keep in mind that Bio is an impacted major at most schools too.</p>

<p>It can be done however, but you have to be willing to put in the time.</p>

<p>Littleduck, don't be discouraged. In general given the amount of prereq's it can take up to 3 years. But i've seen many people do it in two years. I have friends who transferred into ucla with only 2 years at cc. I'm a bio major and I also did it in two years. I finished most of my prereq's except the last semester of bio and finished igetc. It's doable. But i did take summer and winter intersession classes and had ap credit which boost my priority allowing me to get into ochem and cut down some of the ge classes i needed to take. I was also taking 4 classes per semester my first year at cc. If you think there's a lot of prereq for bio look at the engineer majors. They have even more prereq and i've seen people transfer as an engineer major in 2 years altho not that many. Keep in mind not everyone graduates from a uc in 4 years bc it's also very hard to get classes there too. Many stay an extra quarter. Anyway, cc isn't that bad. I loved my cc experience. I actually kind of miss it. No ta's, just 30 students per class (some even less than that) and you get to know your professor really well. Best of all you're not competing with other people for your grade. Good way to boost your gpa for grad school. Wait until you transfer, then you have to deal with curves and compete with other premed people who freakin set the curve high. Also certain classes have a quota system where they allot a certain amount of A's and B's to students. That's when it's much harder to get A's. Good luck.</p>

<p>I've noticed that the time goes by faster if you actually enjoy learning. If you can obtain this mindset then the entire process will be over sooner than you expect.</p>

<p>My two cents: I think it's a waste of money to apply as an 'easy' major just to get into your school of choice. You'll be wasting your time and you'll have to change majors (which can't happen the first semester of your new college that you transferred to if not at all that whole year, that's for sure), take those classes to prepare you for that and so on. What a waste of money! Might as well take the major you want and transfer in 3 years.</p>

<p>I second wishfulone. I also, in case no one else has said this, know that it is damn near impossible to change your major to an impacted major. As you also need to of completed ALL of the pre-req's for Bio and you had to of completed the pre-req's for you "less impacted" major as well.</p>

<p>This is the true test of love for your major. If you make it through, you shall be rewarded. Best of Luck!</p>

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<p>It really depends on you. Have you taken an assessment test? Will you need to catch-up in English, math, etc.? All this can make the difference between taking 2 or 3 years at a CC.</p>

<p>If you have the background in math and English, which I think are the two main requirements to accomplish your goals, then you'll be out in no time. All you'll need then is motivation.</p>

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<p>Did you even bother to read those webpages?</p>

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<p>You'll also have to do your GEs and English requirements, and have the minimum required units (at least 90 transferable quarter units). However, you can do some of your GEs at UCLA if you'd like. You'll have to check with admissions with that.</p>

<p>Check with course availability at your CC. This is very important. Some CC only offer a course once a year. For example, at my CC Physics 1 was only offered in Fall. Make sure to ask around and look at previous class schedules, class offerings are consistent at most schools. You'll have to make a plan and stick to it, if you'll want to transfer in 2 years.</p>

<p>Assuming you don't work, and/or are smart enough, the courseload will be doable. For your first term you can do four classes: 2 science, 1 math, 1 GE. Maybe Bio 1, Chem 50, Math 180, English I. Something like that. Easy, right? :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Agreed.</p>

<p>:rolleyes:</p>

<p>Two years maximum if one is lackadaisical, even less if you're willing to enter in spring/winter.</p>

<p>I just want to echo alansda. For a science major transferring to a UC, do NOT do the IGETC. You can fulfill breadth requirements by following the instructions on assist.org. This will enable you to take less ridiculous classes (like speech) and transfer more quickly. Unless you're transferring to a CSU, IGETC is a waste of time for science majors.</p>

<p>I've never taken a "speech class" (only competitive NFL), but forensics is the single most important skill ever, perhaps.</p>

<p>For a second there, I thought you meant crime scene investigation. Actually, I wish that was what you meant.</p>

<p>I still say that IGETC puts an unnecessary burden on science majors looking to transfer to a UC. You can take classes that are more interesting by following the LS breadth requirements. And you can transfer before finishing all the required classes, (I've done 4 out of 7, I believe), which should be of interest to the OP. IGETC would force him/her to stay at a CC longer.</p>

<p>Really don't listen to the councellor. Theres no way that it would take 3 yrs. If you take the bare minimum to be full-time then of course it would take forever. Just take heavy courseloads. I know someone that transfered in two years under a bioengineering major. He took 25 units per quarter. Which is kinda ridiculous, but hey, what can you do? Don't be lazy.</p>

<p>^ Don't listen to this guy.</p>

<p>If you have to work and be a full time student, don't overload yourself to the point that your grades start slipping. 25 units is ridiculous, do 2 hard and 2 easy courses per semester (no more than roughly 12-15 units). Attend summer/winter sessions.</p>

<p>This method WILL take about 3 years, but all good things come to those who wait, and all that jazz.</p>

<p>I followed this course plan, and ended up with a ~3.8 UC Transferable GPA (3.79 actually).</p>

<p>When considering the fact that the average GPA was roughly 3.5 for my major, I think I did alright.</p>

<p>edit:
In case your worried about the added time at the CC affecting your admissions chances</p>

<h2>Accepted:</h2>

<p>UCSD
UCSB
UCSC
UCR</p>

<h2>Rejected:</h2>

<p>None so far.</p>