<p>"ZM, I am forever in your debt; it's a great relief to finally learn just what the heck has been going on!"</p>
<p>Now that we know, THEY'RE going to have to kill us all.</p>
<p>"ZM...looking at any privates out in California?? "</p>
<p>I don't know anything about California except that it's waaaaaay out there.</p>
<p>On the PA SLAC front, I would check out Ursinus, too. I know very little about it except that it's fairly popular at my kids' school with kids who want a LAC like the ones you're already looking at, and that a good friend of my son's from NYC chose it and is apparently pretty happy there.</p>
<p>Also -- Why Case Western and Syracuse, but not Rochester?</p>
<p>"Why Case Western and Syracuse, but not Rochester"</p>
<p>Case because of the R&R Hall of Fame and the museums, Syracuse because she likes the "amenities" but not Rochester because we know a very successful alum who loathed the place and talks bad about it every chance he gets. Ursinus. I'll check it out.</p>
<p>Also, ZM, Dickinson. Also a SLAC in PA.</p>
<p>"Also, ZM, Dickinson. Also a SLAC in PA."</p>
<p>I am putting her on the mailing list for every one of these colleges.</p>
<p>Good. They are, at least statistically, very similar -- in terms of size, SAT scores, and the fact that they're in PA. For my older son, we looked at them all. Well, we didn't visit them all, but he did apply to them all. He wound up withdrawing his apps when he was accepted at Connecticut College ED II. (Another nice small LAC.)</p>
<p>One of my inexhaustible supply of cousins is a junior at Rochester and quite pleased with it. She had a difficult college application season, and not a lot of choices at the end, so she didn't even go there with a great attitude (quite the opposite). By Thanksgiving of her freshman year, she was content and engaged, and the last time I saw her (Thanksgiving 2007) she was a walking advertisement for the place. In general, I think Rochester is one of those colleges that's going through a golden period right now. Under its last president, there was a considerable retooling of the institution starting in 1995, and one way or another that seems to have led to higher prestige and happier students.</p>
<p>Also -- if she likes Syracuse, how about SUNY-ELF?</p>
<p>What is SUNY-ELF?</p>
<p>SUNY-ESF. She's not a science person, she wants to study classics.</p>
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<p>I'd rather be abducted, preferably immediately; might I be able to talk them into that, instead?</p>
<p>ZM...Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles. Great location. Minutes from LAX. Catholic but not heavily so (I'm Catholic so I think I can judge it that way). Very close to the beach...even have a campus shutle bus that willt ake the kids to the beach to study ;-0 </p>
<p>On the classics front, she would have not only the main Getty museum but the Getty Villa filled with the most beautiful antiquities from the ages. Iknow it seems a world away from you, as does the east coast to me, but might be worth your while to look at a few west coast schools.</p>
<p>ZM, my daughter will probably look at a bunch of those Pennsylvania schools as well. Maybe we'll run into each other on a tour one day. She has already gotten mail from most of them, but hasn't looked at any of it yet - mostly due to lack of time.</p>
<p>By the way, I think those aliens have been messing with D's computer - and not just her home computer, but the computer she uses at school as well. It's really put a huge amount of unnecessary stress on her, and on me too. </p>
<p>JHS, I have to look up SUNY - ESF for D - maybe it's something she would be interested in - I'm having a difficult time getting her to even consider any SUNY, but she knows she has no choice. Same with a CUNY - just in case.</p>
<p>OaksMom, I'm not sure about ZM's D, but I know my D has ruled out west coast schools - she just does not want to be that far from home. I have to admit, part of me is happy she made that decision without any pressure from me or H. She does want to go away, just not that far away. But you are right, I think it's easier to get accepted and get financial aid when you apply to schools that are further away from home.</p>
<p>Sorry, I had forgotten that she liked classics. You may want to take a look at McGill and Toronto, too, although they are a lot bigger than anything else on your list and farther away than anything but Case and Rhodes. One of my daughter's best friends from high school was/is a classics jock, and McGill was very high on her list (a grad student at Harvard told her he thought McGill had a better classics program than Harvard). My son has a couple of classics-jock best friends; one chose Toronto over, inter alia, Berkeley, Barnard, and some English universities (the other is at Penn, but really liked Bard and Oberlin as well). One of the nice things about the Canadian universities is that they have easy applications and relatively predictable admissions standards, but financial aid is hard (not impossible) to get.</p>
<p>"On the classics front, she would have not only the main Getty museum but the Getty Villa filled with the most beautiful antiquities from the ages."</p>
<p>Availability of antiquities/museums is very high on her list (along with Dunkin Donuts and KFC) so this is a great tip.</p>
<p>"JHS, I have to look up SUNY - ESF for D - maybe it's something she would be interested in - I'm having a difficult time getting her to even consider any SUNY, but she knows she has no choice. Same with a CUNY - just in case."</p>
<p>We said the same thing and mean it. My older daughter looked at ESF and, frankly, hated it with a raging passion. I posted on one of those horrible tour threads that the tour guide was either impaired, intoxicated or both, and the school is very, very small. It sits on part of the campus of Syracuse and uses their dorms and facilities, but it was made very clear that the ESF kids are second-class citizens. THe programs are spectacular but I think the quality of life not so much.</p>
<p>"ZM, my daughter will probably look at a bunch of those Pennsylvania schools as well. Maybe we'll run into each other on a tour one day. "</p>
<p>I really hope so.</p>
<p>"You may want to take a look at McGill"</p>
<p>I will do that. Thank you.</p>
<p>zoosermom--
Just a little side-point: if you are going to visit Bryn Mawr, you might want to take a trip over to Haverford College which is only about 10-15 minutes away & similar in many ways. It's also right down the road from Villanova (less than 10 mins from there). It has a beautiful campus & very intellectual atmosphere.</p>
<p>ZM - thanks for the heads-up about the SUNY program. Quality of life is so important, so that's important to know.</p>
<p>So, ZM, how was the GC at the meeting last night? Did he/she have anything useful to offer??</p>
<p>"So, ZM, how was the GC at the meeting last night? Did he/she have anything useful to offer??"</p>
<p>It's tonight. I got my days mixed up. </p>
<p>I think it's post-traumatic stress from the aliens. (That's my story and I'm sticking with it!).</p>