Course, Grades,curves

<p>hey guys....im new here......im an architectural engineering student at Penn State.............going to be a freshman this fall.......im taking Math 140..........and i was wondering.....</p>

<p>IF FOR INSTANCE, I GET A 98% IN THE CLASS.....AND A CURVE IS MADE WHERE A- STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A's....DOES THE CURVE HELP ME OUT AT ALL.....OR DO I STILL GET A 4.0 IN THAT CLASS?</p>

<p>If you get a 98% in the class, you'll probably get an A+.</p>

<p>is an A+ better than an A?........i mean if an A is a 4.0, is an A+ a 4.33?</p>

<p>it depends on the college. ucsd, for example, doesn't give extra points for an a+, but does mark it on the transcript (according to people at orientation).</p>

<p>I could be wrong but I didn't think most colleges used a weighting system like high school. So, a 98 would still be a 4.0. What's wrong with that?</p>

<p>correct me if I'm wrong</p>

<p>Thanx.......</p>

<p>i was just thinking about ways of making up for subjects in which its unfeasible to get an A in....like an english composition class.........i thought if i had over a 4.0 in a math course(where my strength is), it would be weighted and i would still have an amazing G.P.A despite having maybe a B or A- in english........but i guess college is different...</p>

<p>hope i explained myself well enough.........</p>

<p>for classes like english and stuff, i would either suggest trying to test out of it, or finding out who's the easiest TA who teaches it and try your best to get in to an easier class. if your REALLY worried about it, you can just take it @ comm. college (and make sure you'll get cred for it). or you could spend a lot of time on it.....</p>

<p>thanx...maybe i should have considered testing out of it earlier.........an english composition class is definitely an impediment as far as my G.P.A is concerned........i would have to REALLY put work into my research papers when school starts....and substitute basic,comprehensible language for synonymous, more abstruse language,etc in order to get those A's........i'll see how it goes......</p>

<p>don't they only give out one A+?</p>

<p>Some professors give out 1 A+, some give out an A+ over an X % and some don't give them out at all no matter how well you did. :(</p>

<p>phpguru</p>

<p>A+'s are weighted as 4.3 when applying to Stanford grad school no matter what undergrad institution you were from.</p>

<p>good luck getting a A+ in an engineering class.</p>

<p>im actually not in any engineering class ......im only a freshman so im going to be taking the maths and sciences,etc....the prerequisites for any engineering field...........and i know my freshman year GPA will probably be my best....thats why i was requesting this information......i dont think im being unrealistic.........</p>

<p>im obviously not anticipating such grades when i start taking authentic engineering classes......although i'll try my best....</p>

<p>and i just checked with my school.....they dont give A+'s......just A's lol......</p>

<p>well in any case it would be very difficult to get an A+ in any of the prereq maths and sciences classes. usually freshman year you will take some sort of engineering class. in fact depending on how many college creds you have you can jump straight into engineering classes. i'm not saying that you should not aim for the best grade you can possibly get (i got a nearly perfect score in my diff-eq class last sem). but chances are you probably aren't going to get an A+ in any class. college is a lot different from high school. you can probably pull a very high gpa as long as you do significantly better than the average. for instance in my chemistry class (this is gen chem by the way), the curve for an A was set @ ~75-76 %. i've heard of averages in advanced chem (i believe this is the chemE requirement @ uiuc to be around 30-40% on exams)</p>

<p>i wont be able to get an A+ because my school doesn't offer A+'s.......'the professors offer extra credit but even if you have a 103%, you still will get an A and 4.0 grade points.....</p>

<p>if your preference is to set an aim of an A-, and "expect" a B<a href="AND%20WE%20ARE%20TALKING%20%22ONLY%22%20ABOUT%20MATH%20HERE...NO%20OTHER%20COURSES">b</a>** -then by all means, stick with it.......i choose to aim for a perfect score or High 90's in math and "expect" them.....keep in mind, im in penn state( possibly joining schreyers in my sophomore or junior year....but im not there yet)....you're in a prestigious school with a prospectively, ridiculously difficult curriculum.</p>

<p>i might be a 17 yr old freshman but trust me,im not naive when it comes to the complexity of college courses.......and im definitely not delusional.......I know what college math entails like i know my times tables...............furthermore i didnt take my ap calc exam in highschool so im not skipping any of the pre req math courses.....consequently im going to be familiar with most of -if not- all the concepts(ONLY IN MATH)......</p>