<p>So, I need some help. Because of my APs I place out of the First Year Composition, do I take 2 seminars my first year then? </p>
<p>How do seminars that also satisfy electives work? </p>
<p>I was thinking of taking a PHIL seminar first semester and maybe a Theo next semester. </p>
<p>What ARE seminars? </p>
<p>What are some cool Physc and Phil seminars?</p>
<p>You take one Freshman Seminar, that's it. If you test of out FYC, you have an extra elective spot to take freshman year. </p>
<p>Freshman Seminars are all crosslisted with other subjects. A Theo Seminar will grant you theo credit, a History Seminar will grant you history credit, a lit seminar will grant you lit credit.</p>
<p>Freshman Seminars are small (8-14 people, ideally) seminar classes where you have close interaction with a professor on a specific subject and theme. It often approaches this theme from different perspectives, creating an interesting, in-depth look on a topic.</p>
<p>Seminars change from semester to semester, based on which professors want to teach and what they're particular interest area of interest is. The information for the Seminars should be in the packet they sent you (or will send you). That is the only place that has the information you're looking for, as of right now (I know they have a site on the FYS page describing the seminars, but I can't find it at the moment, leading me to believe it's not up yet).</p>
<p>ok now I feel better. </p>
<p>Would you recommend using some of the cross over seminars to get some requirments out of the way to free myself up to take other courses I would be interested in? I think physcology would be cool. The questions asked in the course description are some of the same I ask myself every week at church. </p>
<p>If I took a theo seminar, then I would have one remaining Theo requirment left, right? So I could then take Theo again as an elective that same year, and then finish that requirment? </p>
<p>How do AP scores work excatly? I got a 5 on US history, does that satisfy my Hist requirment for the University? So I could take another differnt elective.</p>
<p>Right now i'm thinking either taking and Philosophy or Theo Seminar. I have interest in both. </p>
<p>So instead of Compostion I take another elective for a semester, do I have to take a seminar first semester, or take another elective that would be in place of Composition first semester? </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Ok, let's try to sort this out. I'm gonna work backwards.</p>
<p>You have an extra elective. You might get your seminar first semester, but you might not. If you don't, you register for yourself for second semester and you'll have to choose your own seminar. I didn't get mine first semester (like roughly half the freshman class), and frankly, I think it worked out better for me. I probably would have enjoyed whatever seminar they put me in, but being directly responsible for my choice was nice. </p>
<p>I wouldn't recommend taking two theo classes at the same time (same semester), unless you're genuinely interested in it. It would get sort of dense. I would recommend (and have recommended) that you take a theo one semester and a philo the other semester. That's what I did, and for reasons that are not particularly easy to describe, mostly because it's just a general feeling I had, it worked out wonderfully for me. </p>
<p>FYS recommends you don't take a seminar in your major (or prospective major), because you will not get major credit for it. Instead, take something that interests you, something that you think you might not have the opportunity to take any other time. </p>
<p>Oh, a 5 on the US history will satisfy one History requirement. If you are in Arts and Letters, you need one social science, one history, and a third from either of these two.</p>
<p>Son placed out of FYC as well. As he was an Engineering intent, he took a Phil and Theo that Fall semester. The Philo was his seminar class. He also took the Calc 10550 and the Chem 10171 as well as the Intro to Eng course and PE. I believe that comes out to be 5 classes for credit in addition to the PE Class. Hope that helps, but of course, this was based on the engineering track and his advisor pretty much placed him in these courses. There really was not much flexibility because of Engineering track.</p>
<p>kevdude you seem like a pretty knowledgeable guy so I'm gonna throw a couple more questions at you...</p>
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<li><p>If I put theo and philosophy as my third and fourth seminar choices, and then put them again under Program requirement, they're not going to stick me with two theo classes, two philosophy classes, or no required classes at all would they? I'm putting an elective as my first under course 5 (program requirement/elective) and then theo and philosophy as second and third choice, and same with the seminar (except three and four). I would be devastated if they loaded me with two theos, two philos, or none at all first semester. They're going to be smart enough to figure that I want to take at least one or the other, maybe one of each, but definitely not none at all, and definitely not two in the same subject.</p></li>
<li><p>Can I put a science class under an elective? like Common Human Diseases (a topical science). They listed electives as other classes such as social sciences, history, fine arts etc but I would really like to take this and another science class if possible. Also, in reference to question one, if I put this and another science course as choice one and two, and then a philo or theo as choice three, would they have a problem working it out so that i fill the requirements?</p></li>
<li><p>I'm going into A&L Psychology/preprofessional, so I need languages. I remember reading somewhere that you needed to at least be at the intermediate level. I took the online Spanish placement test, and said Placement: 20202, which is Intermediate II in the sequence 20201, 20202 intermediate spanish I and II. A&L required two semesters of language, but I swear I saw somewhere the intermediate thing. so should I take the sequence, or would just the Spanish Intermediate II suffice? And if the two semesters ARE necessary, I figure Spanish Intermediate II and then another semester of culture spanish or something would not be as much of a fit as just the 20201 and 20202 sequence, so I could maybe get my basis back and some review. So, what to do in this situation?</p></li>
<li><p>Are FYS optional courses bad ideas? There are some that really interest me but I am seriously bad with time management (ironically the one I want to take is a time management course) and if it involves time put in it outside the classroom, I probably won't be able to handle it. If anyone has taken this course or recommend any other FYS optional courses I would really appreciate it if you gave some insight on this.</p></li>
<li><p>Since I'm doing the AL-preprofessional supplement, it says I pretty much have to take the chem 10171 and 10172 classes. I haven't taken chemistry for four years, and when I did, I had a really bad teacher and basically the class did everything (including tests and labs) together and I learned nothing. Should I brush up on some basics during the summer or will they start completely over and review everything?</p></li>
<li><p>I'm waiting to hear back about the AP Calc test, so how do I know where to place myself? If I get a 3, I start one place, and if I get a 4 or 5, I start another. Do I assume I got less than a 3, a 3, or a 4+5? I seriously have no idea how I did. Say I assume I got a 3, I write down that course, but then I got a 4+5, can I change once I get there?</p></li>
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<p>I know these are all really scatterbrained questions but if you understand any of the gibberish, I would appreciate some help. Thanks so much!</p>
<p>Whoah. Ok. Let's see what we can do.</p>
<p>First, I'm gonna let you know that you are NOT, I repeat, NOT going to get the classes you put on your form. Ok... you might. But probably not. There are 2,000 other freshman going for more or less a lot of the same classes. And chances that some of those classes overlap is pretty good. So. Moral of the story - don't expect to get what you put down on the form, so get used to the idea of rolling with the punches. That being said:</p>
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<li><p>They'll figure it out. Imagine yourself looking at your form from the outside. They're smart people, and, more or less, their objective is to help you satisfy as many requirements as possible, because that ends up being very useful in the long run. </p></li>
<li><p>You can put both, but I don't think they would recommend/place you in two science classes, because of their stance on satisfying requirements. Especially if you are ALPP, your ALPP science classes will satisfy your science requirement, so they're unlikely to put you in an A&L topical science class like Common Human Diseases (by the way, I've heard horror stories about that class, so it's probably for the best if you don't get it). However, if you really want to, put it down. See what happens. There's always a bit of flexibility late in the summer after your schedule comes out, if you talk to your advisor. </p></li>
<li><p>You need intermediate level foreign language. You can test up through one of three ways - SAT II, AP exam, or the Notre Dame Placement Test. If you test high enough with the SAT II or AP Exam, you are exempt from taking any classes, and will receive credit for the 3 levels of language. However, if you place through the Placement Test, you will not receive credit, and are still required to take at least one class at Notre Dame. When I took it, I tested to 27500 - one step above 20202. However, I sat in the class for 20 minutes and realized I was not prepared, and dropped to 20202 the next class. This situation is common. Attend the class they place you in, and decide if you feel comfortable enough in the first few classes. Foreign language professors, especially Spanish professors in my own personal experience, are very understanding of the vagaries of the placement exam. Just talk to them.</p></li>
<li><p>No idea, I have never taken any of these classes. But, they are probably 1.5 credit classes, which equals roughly one hour long class a week, definitely doable. If you are worried about time-management, maybe hold off on those until second semester, after you figure out how you deal with the new time constraints of college.</p></li>
<li><p>It never hurts to brush up on anything, so I'm definitely not going to dissuade you from doing that. But, every freshman ALPP major is in the exact same boat. Some have more experience and knowledge, others less. My understanding is that they teach you Chemistry, very quickly, but they don't skip the beginning and start somewhere in the middle, if that makes any sense. But hey, I'm an English/Spanish/Irish Studies major, what do I know?</p></li>
<li><p>Put whatever you're confident you could have gotten, at the least. If you're confident you got at least a 3, but maybe/probably a 4 or 5, put the 3. In general, it's really easy to bounce up and down in the same track - if you satisfy the baseline class, they'll put you in the next one up, etc. Make any sense? Also, your grades come in when they're planning your classes. They'll take into consideration. I took 4 APs senior year, and ended up getting credit for 3 of them. It worked out fine. </p></li>
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<p>It's getting exhausting answering all the questions you little annoying pre-frosh ask. I expect baked goods and laundry service next year.</p>
<p>You will DEFINITELY be receiving some type of compensation for those answers, because that's exactly what I'm looking for. So basically, if I do 20202,then I am done with languages? Maybe I should do the 01-02 sequence...</p>
<p>Ok, it was between Common Human Diseases and Ecology and Wildlife Biology sooo if I decide I really want to do another science I'll put the latter thanks to your advice.</p>
<p>Thanks for your answers though, if I were in your shoes I would probably pay no attention to us annoying kids</p>
<p>If you do the 20201 class, you will satisfy the requirement as well.</p>
<p>thanks so much for all the help thus far! this has been great!</p>
<p>now were just waiting on dorms!</p>
<p>I have a question. I got a 5 on my Calc BC exam my junior year and then took Linear Algebra and Calc 3 at my community college my senior year and got an A in both. Do I not have to take any math then freshman year(I'm either biology or business)? Will ND accept credit from a community college? Do I have to send them my transcript? </p>
<p>What do I put on the registration form if I'm not taking math?</p>
<p>Hi Just Bumming,
I would recommend (strongly) against taking one of those classes as a pre-prof. They are designed for non-science majors, and won't really do much for you...If you're interested in ecology, disease, etc, you'll probably be better off waiting and taking a higher level elective later in your college career. Just my two cents.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you think the time management class would help, take it! That's one of the most important skills to learn for doing well as a premed. I wish they offered that to us when we were freshmen...:)</p>
<p>Thanks so much PrincessND, those classes really interest me but I probably should focus on filling requirements and leave the leniency for later. So I'll fill the seminar and program req/elective with philosophy and theo classes so I can get those done with. Thanks for your advice!</p>
<p>am37 0- you'll definitely be qualified to test out for business, but I'm not sure about Bio. It is likely, though.</p>
<p>Does it matter when you mail in your registration form as long as it is before June 23rd? Or do you have a better chance of getting into your classes if you send it in early?</p>